Is Ruiz the most underrated hw of all time?

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  1. baldbull

    baldbull Active Member Full Member

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    Back in the day I always wanted Byrd to fight Ruiz whadyathink?
     
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  2. PolishPummler

    PolishPummler Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    no
     
    PolishPummler, May 17, 2009
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  3. miketysonko

    miketysonko Boxing Addict Full Member

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    John Ruiz isn't underrated, if anything, he is overrated. Another example is this thread. IMO he is one of the most boring hw of all time.
     
    miketysonko, May 17, 2009
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  4. splasher25

    splasher25 Active Member Full Member

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    Wow.. this thread still going?! :roll: :rofl
     
    splasher25, May 17, 2009
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  5. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Exactly. People look at his record without recognizing he cheated to get "victories" he would otherwise have been able to get on ability. And his connections with King allowed him to get away with it.

    Ruiz is a fraud - a classic case of a talentless fighter who wouldn't have gotten anywhere without the influence of a powerful promoter. Exhibit A of Boxing Corruption.

    He's not the most "underrated" HW of all time, he's the most FRAUDULENT!
     
    Zakman, May 17, 2009
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  6. Leeroy

    Leeroy Do it Do it Full Member

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    The most boring heavyweight I have ever watched. Stone (his coach) brought more entertainment to the table than a Ruiz fight did.

    I wouldn't say "underrated." The criticism he gets is justified imo. I feel he was a decent heavyweight belt holder.
     
    Leeroy, May 17, 2009
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  7. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    The man got schooled by a middleweight. No he is not underrated.
     
    El Cepillo, May 17, 2009
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  8. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Ruiz was nothing but a ploy by Don King to try and scam the Latino Boxing fanbase.

    King thought if he could get a Latino Heavyweight Champion (Ruiz was never anything but a beltholder) that he would be able to put him on PPV and the Latino fanbase would buy the PPV's.

    Well King made a mistake in he had a fighter who:

    1. Had no skill

    2. Had a horrible boring style

    3. Is nothing but a glorified club fighter


    The con did not work. People saw right through the charade. I remember reading interviews with King after he signed Ruiz he kept saying what a huge draw a Latino Heavyweight Champion would be. Too bad it ended up being a talentless boring fraud in Ruiz.
     
    Rico Spadafora, May 17, 2009
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  9. boxingwizard

    boxingwizard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's why Don King should sign Chris Arreola. Arreola has a great style and the skills to beat a lot of top HW's, King could get Arreola the WBA belt.
     
    boxingwizard, May 17, 2009
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  10. EpsilonAxis

    EpsilonAxis HNIC Full Member

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    All time? No, but he IS underrated.

    Ruiz was a very, very difficult fighter to beat.
     
    EpsilonAxis, May 17, 2009
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  11. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Jab and grab. WWF!
     
    Farmboxer, May 17, 2009
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  12. SAS2

    SAS2 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he got the sh!t pounded out of him by two lightheavyweights. he sucked.
     
    SAS2, May 17, 2009
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  13. spiderricco

    spiderricco Member Full Member

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    When John Ruiz wins the heavyweight title yet again hopefully he wll gain the respect and hall of fame votes he deserves.
     
    spiderricco, May 17, 2009
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  14. Shotgun

    Shotgun Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ruiz is regarded as a joke by anyone who has actually seen him fight

    The only people who give him any praise whatsoever obviously just look at BoxRec without seeing how many of those "wins" were complete garbage, the result of either incompetent or corrupt judges/refs
     
    Shotgun, May 17, 2009
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  15. Agossoumichael

    Agossoumichael Member Full Member

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    He is the first one who made a prime Hasim Rhaman look foolish like an amateur. I know Hasim was knocked out before but he had never looked so bad in a fight before.
     
    Agossoumichael, May 28, 2009
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