Is Sergey Kovalev an ATG?

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Is Kovalev an ATG

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not an accurate comparison. Because that fight was more competitive than Kovalev Ward.

    Plus Marquez receives plenty of credit for all 4 Pac fights. And he only officially won 1 of them.

    But how much credit can you get Marquez or Pac anyways? They both have way too many losses on their record to be good fighters.
     
  2. Pimp C

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    If thats the case id be a pac fan since afterall pbf beat him and pac beat a fighter i hate in margo. Nope it doesn't work like that. You're still mad at ward for beating the bully at his own game and punking ggg. Ward has the best resume of any active fighter not named pac refute that or log off.:deal: if he's not an atg then no one else other than pac is an atg who's active today.
     
  3. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pac doesnt have a great resume because he has too many losses. And everybody he beat has a loss too.

    Ray Robinson has 19 losses. How could you ever give Jake Lamotta any credit for going 1-5 with Robinson? He lost 5 times to a man with 19 losses?

    Everybody is a bum.
     
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  4. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Even if I were bitter as you claim that doesn't have any relevance to the posts and arguments I've made here. Also didn't claim that Ward wasn't an ATG - Again prodded you about how his best win wasn't a shoe in for the HOF despite Ward being a "clear ATG" in your eyes. You really need to work on your reading comprehension and learn to argue to like an adult as opposed to someone in middle school or high school.
     
  5. Pimp C

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    ;)
     
  6. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    If you're best win doesnt even make the HOF then how the hell are you an ATG?

    This logic you're a bum if you have a loss has gutted boxing.

    Nobody wants to take risks anymore. And Nobody has a good resume because nobody fights top guys anymore and by defintion everybody you beat has a loss.

    It's all totally screwed up. I wonder do fans go home, pull up the boxrec on their favorite fighter with an undefeated record and then jack off to their page?
     
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  7. Pimp C

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    You're bitter and beaten in this argument so now you want to try and talk about someone's education level typical. Froch is his best win and is a sure fire lock for the hof. We will see in a few years who's right and who's wrong here.
     
  8. Pimp C

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    Froch is his best win and either kovalev or Kessler is his second best win.
     
  9. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Apparently the cashcows of the sport are daredevils who don't benefit from corruption/favoritism and aren't maneuvered in any way to snatch up extra belts. Some of us like to operate on delusion but the rest of us aren't blinded by agendas. Clenelo is a very good fighter who benefits from being promoted by powerful people who maneuverer him in a precise and calculated fashion.
     
  10. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    When you deflect, lie and attempt to misrepresent what I say that's what you're going to get. Froch is a clear lock especially based on that modern standard but I fail to see how he's more deserving than Kovalev. Totally absurd. Kovalev at his best was a far more dominant fighter and the MAN at his weight. Froch struggled in almost every big fight he had win or lose.
     
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  11. Pimp C

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    Froch fought and beat better fighters than kovalev did. Who's kovalevs best win?
     
  12. C.J.

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    If thats the case id be a pac fan since afterall pbf beat him and pac beat a fighter i hate in margo.
    ROFLMAO !! Gotcha youve admitted you hate Antonio Margarito. We all know why you hate him too dont we ??lol
    He's the MAN!! that turned your idol Floyd into old Poopy pants by just walking up to him smiling & saying "why wont you fight me" That was a classic
     
  13. Pimp C

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    You damn right i hate a glove loading pos who you admitted cheated.
     
  14. UnleashtheFURY

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    Kovalev ruled his division with an iron fist. Unified belts and made a ton of title defenses. He was the MAN. Every fighter he's been in with he's arguably beaten. The same can not be said about Froch who was never the best in his division and was clearly bested on more than one occasion only avenging a loss after his conquer had clearly faded.

    To your point of him supposedly having fought and beaten "way better opponents" their best opponents are for the most part shared and Kovalev performed better on both occasions.

    - Froch lost clearly to Ward where as Kovalev in many eyes did enough to win the first fight.
    - Pascal and Froch went to war that went the distance where as Kovalev utterly destroyed Pascal on both occasions.

    Kovalev easily gets an edge for all of the title defenses he made, unifying, level of dominance he showed while at his peak. Froch struggled in almost every major fight he had.
     
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  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Nah you only hate him cause he showed the world what a pansy your idol was Keep:BangHead: it wont go away its on the internet LOL. You know you should change your name to
    Dimples with all the wussies you idolize:crybaby2::crybaby2: