Is Sergey Kovalev an ATG?

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Is Kovalev an ATG

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Who was "the man aka lineal champ" at 175 then?
     
  2. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Did you see the fight? Hopkins was so overmatched and exhausted and afraid that he only threw like 3 punched a round. Nobody who is 46 could have beaten Kovalev. Come on.
     
  3. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    When did I say 46 year old Hopkins would beat Kovalev? Thats the third time you put words into my mouth. Im beginning you think you are a simpleton , either that or you're doing it on purpose since you can't provide a valid retort to any of my posts.

    But Kovalevs best or second best win is a near 50 year old Hopkins. If you think so little of older fighters why are you arguing that Kovalev is an ATG?
     
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  4. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lineal doesn't exist. It's a made up fairy tale. Where is the lineal belt? Oh yea. That's right, it doesn't exist.
     
  5. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Who gets to decide?
     
  6. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    In 2011 Hopkins was 46. So who would have won in 2011? Hopkins or Kovalev?

    Dont be weird. Hopkins at 46 stands no chance.
     
  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    You can die in the ring at any age. Stfu with that nonsense.
     
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  8. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    What the hell has racism got to do with this girl hands?

    Alvarez KTFO out of Bute, if Kovalev got a gift over a guy like Dirrell you’d be shouting it from the roof top.

    Kovalev was the man at 175, Froch was never not when it was Calzaghe, not when it was Kessler or Ward, I fact he’s never been top 2

    SK is that bad yet Ward needed a gift in their first fight and some very favourable USA refereeing and JDJ being a snake, along with Ward/Hunter and that little gimp Prince to get the D and W.....
     
  9. Bah Lance

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    There is a difference between a close fight with a clear winner. And a close fight where either guy could have edged it.

    Ward vs Kovalev I was a close fight with a clear winner. And the majority feel that winner was Kovalev.

    But even if you feel that Kovalev vs Ward was a close fight where either guy could have edged it, you need to give credit to Kovalev. Just calling it an "L" and not taking into account that the majority scored the fight to him or not even taking into how well he performed against Ward in contrast to Froch or Kessler is feigning ignorance to avoid due credit.

    You are going to have to accept that Kovalev vs Ward wasn't just a result, it is a filmed fight that many felt Kovalev outboxed Ward in. Even if it was a close fight.

    You keep bringing up JMM vs Pac III. Well that is fight where both fighters really should really get credit. It's also a fight where the majority is divided, Kovalev vs Ward....you know the media scores, you know how most fans feel. You know your opinion is a minority. Deal with it and stop pimping yourself as an enlightened authority.
     
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  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    It does exist and it has for multiple decades the man who beat the man who beat the man is the recognized champ of the division. Just because it happened to be Stevenson and not Kovalev doesn't make it invalid. I can agree that Stevenson milked his run as the man at 175 but he was indeed the man. Stevenson became the man by beating Dawson years ago.
     
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  11. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    why this lie about froch, when ward left the division, froch was the man at smw.

    admittedly kessler was the man at smw longer for sure, but froch was the man too for a while just as calzaghe was the man at smw after he beat kessler and then stopped his smw reign.
     
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  12. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    dont listen to pimpc on anything, hes a supremacist mate.
     
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  13. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    kov wuld have krushed him anyway if he hadnt been so worried about maiming a 50 year old. Although it would have been a cagey longwinded krushing.
     
  14. Bah Lance

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    A title is only as valuable as the Champion who holds it and what he does with it.

    You can be lineal and not "the man."

    Gus Lesnevich was lineal LHW Champion for years, it doesn't make him better than Ezzard Charles, Archie Moore, or Jimmy Bivins. Sure..Gus was lineal but Charles was the Man... while Gus was crushing cans, Charles carved out a legendary career and solidified himself as the best fighter in the division Gus supposedly owned.

    Stevenson was lineal, Kovalev was the Man.
     
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  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You want to find out if I have girl hands ****boi you don't want it with me and already know better. Yeah racism has something to do with it because it shows you have an agenda and will automatically show support or hate for certain fighters regardless. You were in fact banned for it.

    Kovalev was never the man at 175 dummy he was not the champ Stevenson was those are facts, something you seem to have trouble dealing with. Now the Nail is the man and Kovalev still isn't the champ. Ward proved to be superior in the rematch when he bullied the bully one could say after Ward was knocked down in their first fight from the moment on he mentally beat Kovalev.
     
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