Is sergio martinez the most athletic white boxer ever?

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  1. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing

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    Brazil has a subtle, hidden racism in the elite......you won´t find regular people with "white things" and "black things", your normal brazilian citizen don´t care for race, believe me.
    Culturally a "white brazilian" is identical to a "black brazilian" if they are from the same state......it is like that in US ??
    White-americans and Black-americans share the same culture ? They are that similar ?

    And why you highlighted Brazil ??? The other countries have the same if not more racism than Brazil......and btw, you are forgetting that Brazil is very mixed, in terms of races.

    Definitely, many problems yet... I agree.....
    But what you are saying is definitely more true in other latin american countries. In places like Dominican Republic the blacks don´t like to be viewed as blacks.....
    The culture in Brazil is of African roots in many aspects like Samba, Capoeira, etc......all things created by the black-brazilians.
    I have plenty of black-brazilian friends, I was born in a hood where I was one of the few that looked "white", and this never was a problem......and just after to see some of the threads here I realized that big difference between the way race is treated in Latin America in comparison with other countries, like US......
     
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    Death to all White People. :rosstheboss :gun

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  3. Dorfmeister

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    The best caucasian fighter of all times must have been Rocky Marciano of course... Technically, skillwise, ODLH puts Martinez in the trash bin... F***, not to mention Willie Pep, Marcel Cerdan, Jake LaMotta, DeMarco, Zale, all the great MWs of the past, Maxim who blasted Robinson in the NY Giant Stadium. And even if you consider modern history, what about Calzaghe, Collins, Maske, Otkke, Tiozzo, Michalczwski, Boudouani and if you consider him a latin then it's even worse cause he's way behind Rosario, Monzon, Sanchez, JCC Sr, Duran, Arguello, Ricardo Lopez, MAB, Morales and JMM... You do not have a case...
     
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    Andre Ward?
     
  5. Caestus

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    Probably the slickest white fighters ever along with Willie Pep.Vitali is very slick also for a heavyweight of his size.

    Mulato ;)
     
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  7. Caestus

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    What I have noted is that north americans "root for races" (and is viewed as something pretty acceptable), and as far as I know that doesn't occur in Brazil.But I don't know.
     
  8. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    Yes. 100% correct. Exactly what I said here....and this shows the difference. A person rooting for "race" would be viewed as a weirdo here...
    I post in a brazilian forum too (not boxing related, it´s about MMA) and we have a Lounge like the lounge here....pretty similar, with trolls too, etc.....Never saw a race related thread over there like we see often here. That´s a good example to show the difference I guess....
     
  9. Dorfmeister

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    Even Vito Antuofermo was stronger and tougher the way he rumbled with Hagler and then was very unfortunate to have been cut and stopped in the Minter fight. Collins was surely tougher than Martinez specially against Mike McCallum, Chris Eubank and Nigel Benn. Dave Tiberi fought a hell of a fight against JJames Toney and Axel Shultz did beat George Foreman and was robbed in the US.
     
  10. Ivo

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    Pure stupidity in many posts here. Racial hatred motivated. It is amazing how some people ignore science only to express their racial hatred.

    The fact is that the vast majority of Argentinians are white/European origin. Everyone who has ever visited a school knows that. White period.

    Latin is not a race. How ignorant must be one to claim it is a race? Latin is a huge part of European culture and heritage.
     
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    The point is that no race has any inherent definition, so these debates are all pure conjecture.
     
  12. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No they are not. It's proven and everyone who was in school knows it. Only a racially bias person will claim the opposite.
     
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    These newfags...
     
  14. Ivo

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    By the way people should go to school and learn. It is important.
     
  15. Ivo

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    There are many Argentinians of Bulgarian origin. It is a country of European imimgrants.