Is Sergio the next Great White hope even if hes latino??

yep MANU GINOBILI is from argentina but has italian blood in him.

 

:deal

On all points.

 

Italian is still Latin.

 

Sorry, gonna continue to be a dick here but pretty much every single European family can trace their routes back to Rome.

If you go back that far you have literally hundreds of thousands or millions of direct ancestors from all over the place.

Edit: and the term latino describes people from Latin America, not Europe.

 

I met Sergio once when he was back home visiting relatives in Clifden, he told me he considers himself white even though his mom looks like Samuel Peter. He also speaks the Irish so he does.

 

Exactly. Read my earlier post about being "Latino" and where your heritage comes from. I specifically said it could be a wide range of different things but the basis of "Latino" comes from the foundation of the language, and the areas the language was spoken.

I am speaking from a historical context, as people are always caught up on the color of skin. The whole thing about "Latino" comes from "Latin Countries" and being of "Latin Descent." I am Latino, I know what I am talking about here, believe me. People want to say it is just "Latin American Countries," but that is not entirely correct. France and Italy both have their roots in Latin, just like Spain and that is because of the Romans. You could technically call anybody from Spain, France, or Italy "Latin," just as I could call anybody who isn't pure Indian in Latin America "Latin."

And no, not everybody can trace their heritage back to Rome... and to be frank, some Europeans would find that offensive. Scandinavians are not Romans, neither are Anglo-Saxons, neither are Celts, Germans, etc. Rome did conquer a lot of territory, but not everything.

 

Does he have a Donegal accent or does he sound like a Kerry-man ?

 

Based on what I've highlighted I just want to add that I hate when people have the nerve to call a black fighter a "black hope" as if it's some parallel to "white hope" when if you break it down it simply doesn't work.

 

Yeah! and I'm not white, i'm swedish! what a ****ed up logicatsch

cant anyone tell the difference between nationality, language and race in america???:-(

 

Scandinavian would be the proper term.

Yes, some of us do have an education over here in America. We're not all lost... just most of us unfortunately.

PS -- $300 Million a week to enforce a no-fly zone in Libya. This country is ****ing ******ed.

 

"Great White Hope" only applies to the WASP segment of the US populace.
By the way, white in USA= descendant of british english, everywhere else white= european, or the descendent of one

 

We all evolved from other things namely Primates. Dont know why u people get so hung up on skin color.

 

Latin is a language(spanish is about 70% latin), so I made an example with another one

if he had said mediteranian, I would have said scandinavian

 

Latino is a cultural term, it's not a race. It's used to describe people from Latin America. It's not used to describe people from Europe.

The Scandinavian gene pool is not cut off from everyone else. As I said, you literally have hundreds of thousands of not millions of direct ancestors if you look back 2000 years. Some of them certainly would have come from Rome no matter where you live in Europe. It's a statistical certainty.

Most of your ancestors 2000 years ago probably wouldn't have lived in Rome. The ones you've somehow managed to trace may have but that's an incredibly small amount of your ancestors. (unless there's was a hell of a lot of inbreeding which I seriously doubt as you're not ******ed!)

It's just statistically certain.



Damn, I don't even know what I'm arguing anymore! Point is, Martinez is a white man and that doesn't matter to anything!

 

I think we're agreeing in a round-about way. LOL I am speaking historically, you're speaking culturally, but I think we're trying to say the same thing about color not meaning as much as people think. hehe

My point is there is no such things as being "French" or "Swedish" if you really want to talk about "race." People only identify as such because of the rise of nation states after the medieval period. Generally speaking, language and geography has more to do with the racial breakdowns than anything else in my opinion.