Is Shakur the best at 135 now?

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  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Shakur beats the breaks off zepeda and pit bull, they both ducked him.
     
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  2. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Rummy, I'm saying it now. Loma is gonna get him. I just believe Loam has at least one more great fight in him.
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Try heeding my warnings once in awhile. Did you see what Zepeda did to Diaz? The man is clearly far better than you're giving him credit for. Have you seen what Cruz does to every other southpaw he's faced? He literally destroys them. Brutal KO of Magdaleno, brutal KO of Ramirez, did enough to beat Tank. Styles make fights, southpaws always gave Stevenson issues in the amateurs, Zepeda is a rangy volume punching very large southpaw. Isaac specializes in taking out southpaws. Mull it over before coming to the same tired ass response everyone else has.
     
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  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Well said

    Also, he couldn't even make one defence of his world title at 126. He immediately moved up after winning it, and he lost his ones at 130 on the scales after just making 2 defences, missing weight by a 1.6lbs, and was a lot bigger than Valdez and bigger than Herring who came down from 135.

    He looks as big as big 147 pounder Super Boots here. Not as tall but thicker

    That's a 126 pounder standing nest to a big 147 pounder

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    He's very skilled but beating a whopping 2 world champions in 20 fights - a bang average Herring who couldn't even hang at world level at 135 and whose only claim to fame is beating up a 122-126 past prime leprechaun Frampton in what was a huge size mismatch, and a Valdez he looked much bigger than and who clearly lost his previous fight and has been involved in half a dozen wars/life and death struggles where he's been dropped, hurt or both - warrants being rated the best fighter in the sport? Off the top of my head. Marriaga, Blue Nose Lopez, Quigg, Servania, and Conceicao all gave him hell and Loma schooled his best win Valdez in the amateurs 12-1 with a broken hand.

    The best fighter in the sport over infinitely more accomplished champions who've beaten many world champions their size, bigger or much bigger, much better ones than the ones Shakur has and many of his fans deride these same way more accomplished champions and giant slayers as being ''hype jobs''

    And this warrants him a higher P4P ranking than Usyk by CBS ? :facepalm:

    Even his win over Conceicao is shrouded in controversy after he not only missed weight by 1.6lbs and didn't even attempt to get down any lower, but he went full Dre on Conceicao's testicles all night :facepalm:

    And the fact his manager is big time gangster James Prince sets the alarm bells ringing for me for a number of reasons and rightly so.

    Also, he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the P4P top 10 rankings until he can learn to stop pulling this face all the time during his fights

    And he's a grunter too

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    He's real good but let him earn it first :facepalm:
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    :deal: True P4P talents don't have a resume riddled with irrefutable asterisks, and they certainly don't have handlers, managers and trainers, protecting him with carefully calculated cherry picks every step of the way. And promoters, sycophantic commentators and gangland hoods ready to twist arms just in case **** goes wrong.:deal:

    Also, it doesn't help that he looks like a constipated feral lesban.:sisi1
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Exactly. He's a good fighter. He's very skilled. We both admit that. But he's being crowned a king, just like they tried to do with those poundshop knockoff ''four kings,'' way before his coronation and he does look as big or if not only slightly smaller than welterweights Terry and Super Boots. And he does look like a male lesbian and grunt when he punches.


    Notice how plus minus stats are a thing again now that he sits atop at the overall #1 spot? Loma was #1 by some distance, racking up Floyd numbers, when he was down at 126 and 130 and not facing giants who are way bigger, longer and heavier than him and he still resides at #3 and ranks very highly in many categories even though he's routinely giving away huge physical advantages, not against fighters he's a lot bigger than or bigger than or at worst the same size as and he's racked up/racking those numbers against far superior opposition than both the #1 and #2 are (Benavidez is the other who is also huge for the weight).
     
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  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    And how ironic would it be if Shakur fights Loma and Loma beats him, all of the Loma haters will be out en masse, screaming that he had to drag up a natural featherweight and give him zero credit for it, who they'll conveniently not notice is the size of a Light Middleweight.:lol:
     
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  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Would love to see it. Shakur schools both.
     
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  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    You know I respect your boxing knowledge, but when it comes to Shakur my eye test tells me this kid is damn special. Hopefully we get one of those fights next.. Shakur did call them out and they did ***** out so..
     
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  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol: I never even thought of that. Probably because I've always known how small Loma is and how Shakur looked noticeably bigger than Loma even back when they sparred when Loma was at 130 and Shakur was at 126.

    It's bad enough the fact he looks like a lesbian but to also grunt when you punch and only sport a KO 50% when you're very big for the weight classes you campaign in is unforgivable. And he throws that constant pawing sneaky way to stiff-arm jab nonstop which I can't stand. I haven't paid any attention to his ring attire and CCA yet but it's something I need to look into ASAP
     
  11. Hood.

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    Lightweight is full of sharks
    Stevenson could be the best at 135 currently but he has a number of dance partners that would want to prove otherwise
    There could be some great fights if the division is active & the fighters are willing to fight each other
     
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  12. Alo2006

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    One can assume he is, but he has to beat at least 2 of the top 5 guys before we can say that. Tank, Haney and Loma.
     
  13. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know his resume isn't the strongest but just going by the eye test, he looks like P4P #1 type material. The elite speed/reflexes you just can't teach. His confidence, demeanor, skills and ability to compute data on the fly and adjust. It would take someone really special to beat him IMO. You would have to crack a tough code.
     
  14. turbotime

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