Is Shane Mosley an "intelligent" fighter?

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  1. horst

    horst Guest

    I'm not going to expand, elaborate or explain the question at all. Provide your answer to this question, on the basis of whatever you think this question means or should mean.

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  2. SouthpawSlayer

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  4. Devintea

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    In the aspect of being able to adapt to an opponent who makes constant adjustments, I would venture to disagree. However, if intelligence coincides with the ability to follow a game plan to a "t" and execute such plan without delineation, then he is.
     
  5. EverLast

    EverLast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    in the words of the legendary Floyd Mayweather Sr 'all shane does is jitters, he js got jittery hands'
     
  6. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not so much and he isn't great at making adjustments but sometimes his heart sees him turns fights around. He turned it around against Delahoya 1&2 (if you thought he lost or not) Mayorga and fought quite smart against Vargas/Collazo

    I think the better questions are maybe can he constantly land clean on Pacquaio or will Pacquaio's handspeed and movement constantly see him beaten to the punch.

    Depending how much he has left, Mosley's right hand maybe the most dangerous weapon Pacquaio has faced since Marquez's right hand
     
  7. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not really. Hes not a stupid fighter either though, he just cant adjust well in fights and though hes a veteran, he isnt cagey. I would equate him to a Baldomir with speed.
     
  8. PBFred

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    :verysad
     
  9. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    care to explain? We are taliking about smarts in the ring. Not athleticism, speed, power, anything else just smarts. Baldomir wasnt a dumb fighter he just wasnt a cerebral one. Shane is similar.
     
  10. COLD-HARD-TRUTH

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    I think Winky Wright and Forrest before him really exposed the fact that Mosely lacks the versatility to adapt to and counteract what his opponent is doing in the ring. I believe Shane is a gifted athlete, but don't think his father ever really taught him how to box and adapt during a fight. When Shane was a lightweight, he simply overwhelmed guys with speed and power. He could not do that against tall, rangy, big welterweights and junior middleweights like Forrest and Wright when he moved up in weight.... and he lacked the boxing IQ to make any adjustments after the 2nd round against Mayweather. Sure age might have had something to do with it, but I think had Shane fought Floyd in the late 90's at 135lbs, it would have been a competitive fight and Shane could have had a chance to KO Floyd, but even than, based on Floyd's boxing ability and adaptablility.... chances are Shane still would have lost a UD.
     
  11. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So you think mosley is on par with baldomir in regards to ring intelligence:rofl
     
  12. Bogotazo

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    He made clear adjustments in a good number of fights, clearly against DLH, and can follow a game-plan very well. He also anticipates shots well enough to counter, but the focus on the shots that land are the accuracy and speed. He's not a master planner, but he's cagier than a lot of people give him credit for. It's the pockets of moments in fights is where he shows his intelligence, as opposed to often making pace-changing technical adjustments.
     
  13. Boxing Fanatic

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    Not any more. He's just freakin' old
     
  14. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah I do. He is better in regards to everything else and obviously a much better fighter overall.
     
  15. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Ha yea. That seems the only fitting adjective for him nowadays. Sad.