Is Sugar Ray Leonard overrated?

What happened when he fought Julian Jackson?

 

He got knocked out

Julian was the supreme pressure fighter, similar to hagler & El Torito (you could add Tony Sibson & Animal Fletcher)

That kind of fighter could give speedsters like Terry N Ray Robinson trouble

However, in a mere few months time, Terry's dee-fence improved dramatically as he was never again to have his defense penetrated

Wilfred benitez was the best defensive fighter that Ray Leonard faced in his career.

Until,,... he faced Terry Norris. Ray simply could not touch him and even to the body found it nigh impossible because of Terry's multi faceted defense

He couldnt cope with him from long range and he couldnt deal with him at close range!

Terry was just hitting his stride. Hitting Norris in his prime was harder than hitting a cloud!

 

Until he met Simon Brown.. And Keith Mullings.. And Dana Rosenblatt... And Laurent Boudouani.

 

I sincerely hope you are trolling. Some of stuff you state as fact is pure fantasy.

I guess you never watched Norris-Simon Brown I.

Norris was a very good fighter but he didn't have the complete package - He didn't have the durability that great fighters must have. That is why he falls short.

It's also hilarious how you make up adjectives that don't exist in the English Language.

This is another reason I believe you are trolling.

If you aren't, I feel for you.

 

Your profile says you've only been here since 2014.. Do a search for some stuff dating back to about 2007-2008. Roosters been at this a long time.

 

Norris would have got his ass whooped by a prime Leonard. Prime Leonard was possibly the best ever.

 

This is excellent stuff!! I'm sold.

 

I'll pass.

 

I feel for you, I think I love you!

Well let me first say that....

Terry can't fight well flatfooted. He must utilize his skills to their fullest extent. He has so many varied skills, that he sometimes neglects to use them all in unison. He said this shortly before the Leonard fight that, "once he goes flatfooted with me, he don't stand a chance"

and true to form, it was a one sided little bout (not even a fight)

A pity the "experts", those in the know, did not foresee this happening

Once Terry was back to his disciplined self, the bout with Brown? Well it was simply no contest!

INDEED!

Indubitably!

 

In life, we must often accept results that are not to our liking

In this case, reality showed the difference between true greatness (Norris) and near greatness (Leonard)

Perhaps it's best that Leonard passed over Hagler, Pryor,& Nunn in their primes and opted for bouts vs tired out retirees, has beens, tomato cans (Howard, Lalonde)

DON'T MESS WITH THE YOUNG STUFF! (That's Floyd's job!)

 

Great, but my point was simply a refutation of your bogus claim that Norris' defense was never penetrated after Jackson laid him out.

Brown laid him out

Therefore, your claim was refuted

 

I've also said "when Terry Norris don't want to be hit, he isn't"

big fights, important fights, are what matters to Norris and he wins them in one sided, undisputed fashion :yep

ALL OF THEM!

Mugabi, Leonard, and even Curry were all expected to beat him, but the instant Terry with his trigger fisted offense, unloaded, they each had to back off

It was a speed deluge that once started, you had better GET OUT OF THE WAY OR ELSE

Ray leonard didn't get the message soon enough quickly learned his lesson

Joe Gatti tried to rough him up and we all saw what happened.

A left hook, too fast for the eye to follow, and Joe took a seat, prey to speed that knew no equal

and once again, we saw the follow up attack along the ropes that made Joe feel like he was a leaf caught up in a storm, soon clutching at his broken nose

I actually admired Ray for having the guts to face the unknown at the time Norris but again, as I thought; he couldnt' handle the speed

 

You may be 2014's poster of the year but you still don't come close to touching Rooster (that's me)

 

So I guess his challenge of Julian Jackson wasn't big or important?

He's lucky he looked so bad that Mugabi (who as incredibly past his prime) gave him a second shot.

Curry, Mugabi and Leonard were all far out of their prime when Norris beat them. Mugabi did have a title but had won it on a fluke ko when Jacquot broke his ankle.

Hell, Simon Brown was well past his prime when he knocked Norris out.

What prime grade A guy did Norris ever beat?

Meanwhile:

Leonard beat prime Benitez and Hearns, and Duran.

Only Hagler was past it, but he had just beaten the **** out of Mugabi, pretty much ruining Mugabi's prime right there.

 

I sense bitterness over Terry's spectacular success, winning in convincing fashion when not given the chance

That's okay, I've been there too and so have many others

In the 60s, it was the hated Ali

In the 80s it was Hagler

and in recent years it was Floyd

I still remember that poster HE Grant asking me that question "so do you think Terry could beat Ray in a one on one contest?"

some people just can't accept reality