Is sugar Ray Leonard the greatest welterweight?

Nah, no worries.

And you'll be waiting; only completed up the African boycott so far. Just for experience, not hard journalism or anything :good

 

I'm surprised that people would question Leonard's ability to put together powerful or his penchant for shoe shining, as he often did both during a fight.

 

He cannot be considered the 'Greatest' when there are several 'legitimate' bouts missing
from his record.

Add to the fact, the he lost to a 29 year-old 5' 7" Lightweight, who had moved up 12 lbs.,
and was 3 years past his 'Peak Fighting Capability'

A 'Great Fighter' yes, the 'Greatest' no.

 

Have you seen the original SUGAR in his WW prime ? Well I have and Ray Leonard ,great as he was ,was no Ray Robinson..,,.Robinson was a much harder combinatiion puncher than Leonard...He was absolutely vicious in his attack and how in tarnation can you compare Ray Leonard with a mere 40 bouts in his career, with the immortal SRR who fought 202 bouts in his career spanning TWENTY FIVE years in which Robinson was NEVER stopped
except in the Maxim fight when the heat kod Robinson...So how could you say Leonard was a better welterweight ? Can you not understand how much
greatness and ability Robby posessed to fight for 25 years without truly being kod in 202 bouts ?
If there was a fantasy bout between Sugar Robinson and Ray Leonard,
for Leonard's sake he should dump the nickname "Sugar" as Robby revered that name Sugar, as a certain George "Sugar" Costner found out TWICE, being kod twice in the very first round...And Costner was a helluva welterweight in the 1940s...Leonard was great in a mini short [40 bouts]
career. Ray Robinson was the "greatest" in a 202 bout marathon...

 

Seems like you're not reading my post properly Burt.
Would you like to have another look before we discuss this further?

 

Yeah, stay with us Burt!

Those clubbing cane-strikes are ill advised here.

 

I have to agree with Burt.

Its pretty damn hard to argue against Robinson being the greatest welterweight and franlkly he may well be the best p4p period. Does that mean he beats everyone head to head? Not necessarily. But for a guy to fight for 25 years, multiple weight classes, a number of all time greats and 200 pro fights only being stopped once due to heat prostration is a standout feat.

 

Again,I'm not sure where I said the things that Burt seems to feel the need to correct me on.
I haven't said he(SRR) wasn't the greatest and I haven't said the Ray Leonard is.
And since I haven't said them,surely that means I can't be corrected and I'm not disagreeing with Burt.
All I'm saying is that H2H,I feel Ray has a chance against any welter.

 

Right, but he's still back in page nine. :-(

 

Oh I'm not disagreeing with either of your arguments, in fact I haven't really read them. I'm just agreeing with Burt that Robinson deserves the title of best welterweight. Could Ray Leonard give Robinson a run for his money or even upset him in a head to head match? Its certainly a possibility. A man who defeated the likes of Hearns, Duran, Hagler, and Benitez should never be disregarded in any fight. Robinson for me has the best legacy though.

 

Just gone over the pages again and I have to say,not for the first time,you've really excelled on this thread mate.I've missed your more lengthy contributions on the General.:-(

Ouch!:!:

 

I'm sorry.

I'll give the benefit of the doubt that they were fantastic.

 

No need mate.I thought it was quite witty and enjoyed the post.:good

 

My arguments were pretty much about how godly Robinson was, with plenty of compliments dished out to Leonard.

 

I am sure all sensible boxing fans agree that both men were tremendous fighters, and while Robinson was the first true Sugar, it is a complement to him that a man as great as Leonard carried on the name..