Is sugar Ray Leonard the greatest welterweight?

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  1. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Bunch of Sanchez-haterz here!:twisted:

    Pedroza ducked rematch with Zamora:tong

    Salvador's movement = Arguello's loss.:yep
     
  2. Hands of Iron

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    135 from FW is a good leap though... And against a fighter of that quality? Then again, I can never tell when you're being serious :lol: but even if you arent, Sal would've had a decent shot of it, I think. His standing (especially if it followed a uni w/ Eusebio) would've been thoroughly remarkable. Fighter of the Decade, without a question. Even if he had hung it up before the mid-way point of the 1980s, as it's said he was looking to do.
     
  3. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    I know the common arguments in favor of Arguello or Sanchez, of course.

    Arguello's devastating power
    Sanchez' iron chin
    Arguello's pinpoint accuracy, straighter shots. And somewhat overly methodical style.
    Sanchez' boxing skills. And his tendency to get hit despite his skills.
    Arguello's slow feet
    Sanchez' excellent movement
    etc

    Personally I prefer Sanchez over Arguello at feather.
     
    But if we're talking about Arguello-Sanchez at lightweight it's a different scenario.
    I never liked these kind of hypothetical match-ups.
    We have never seen Sanchez above feather, we don't know how comfortable he would be at that weight etc.

    It's too theoretical, in my opinion.
     
  4. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    1. Robinson is the greatest WW (& p4p) fighter ever.
    2. Leonard is the best WW of the modern era that has all of his career on film.
    3. Pryor is no match for Leonard, he`d get stopped in the championship rounds after being outboxed & made to look silly for the majority of the fight.
     
  5. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    And vice versa.

    Robinson would rightfully be the favourite though ;)
     
  6. Flea Man

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    I have seen Sal' at 129 wearing blue shorts. He looked the same.
     
  7. Flea Man

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    Nah. Arguello would time him down the stretch and knock him out.
     
  8. Lester1583

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    Nicky Perez fight - slightly over the featherweight limit.

    I agree - he looked
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    amazing as usual.:yep

    You're just a blatant Arguello-fanboy, admit it, Flea!:tong;)
     
  9. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    In height, not in bulk, weight or strength.
     
  10. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed.

    All Leonard would need to do, is hire me. :happy:happy:happy
     
  11. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Which I think is a ****ing disgrace, one fight fair enough, but TWO fights ?... even after the first was apparently so good & close... there is no excuse for that IMO, none at all :-(
     
  12. Flea Man

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    :|
     
  13. stonehammerjack

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    :good
    :goodAlright!
     
  14. Hands of Iron

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    What really pisses me off is they actually mulled over it before deciding, 'Nah' with an apparent shrug. I believe it was in an article TheGreatA posted some time back, but I know it's there because I could never possibly forget it. We lose out on numerous Robinson fights at Welterweight by a couple of mere years. A ton of Gavilan's WW run is on film from the early-mid 1950s, which is why we've got a very good amount of footage of Robinson as a legit middleweight during the same time.
     
  15. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    the two greatest welters were SRR and Mantequilla Napoles..with kid Gavilan coming in at 3rd.