Is Sugar Ray Leonard The Most Complete Fighter Ever

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  1. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Was able to box on the outside with the stick and move vs Duran and Hagler, could fight on the inside when needed, broke down Benitez, slugged it out with Hearns. Had great speed and power. Good jab. Good chin. Great finishing ability and heart. Great ring iq...

    Was he the most complete boxer ever
     
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  2. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Certainly ONE of the most compete fighters ever. And one of the very greatest pound for pound.
     
  3. Tockah

    Tockah Ingo's Bingo Full Member

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    I think he's up there but he was too happy to stand and throw with much bigger and stronger men at times. I think like most ATG his biggest downfall was ego and he bought into his own image that the public perceived. Same deal happened with Ali, SRR, etc. you get the jist.
     
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  4. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    I'd say yeah. Other candidates for this title are:
    - Joe Louis
    - Ezzard Charles
    - Sugar Ray Robinson
    - Marvin Hagler
    - Michael Spinks
    - Julio Cesar Chavez Sr
    - Mike McCallum
    - Lennox Lewis (with Manny Steward)
    - Floyd Mayweather Jr
     
  5. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The gold standard for a complete fighter is named Sugar Ray Robinson. That being true Leonard was great at 147 , he could fight or box , I think his best effort was his loss to Duran actually. He very well may be the 2nd greatest welterweight of all time.
     
  6. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No he ain't. He was mostly an outside fighter and avoided brawls. Otherwise he wouldn't have run like a cowardly ***** and shoe shine at the end of rounds against the great Hagler (who epitomizes what a great boxer really is).
     
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  7. michael mullen

    michael mullen Active Member Full Member

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    No, he wasn't...Sugar Ray
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    was. You almost got it right.
     
  8. Monnever

    Monnever Member banned Full Member

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    No he fought in a out of date era people have become way more skilled since 70s isn't that impressive compared
     
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  9. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    So, I see you are a one-trick troll. You already ran your mouth about older fighters vs newer fighters in the SRR against GGG thread.
     
  10. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  11. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Seriously, Leonard definitely showcased a pretty holistic set of skills. Except, not really all at once imo.

    He was a far more driving puncher early on, in fact he came across as more of a puncher against Hearns in their first fight. Later on he became more of a boxer (of course, there are exceptions to this blanket assertion).
     
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  12. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You " avoided brawls " really ?
    To my recollection he stood almost toe to toe, to one of the best brawlers ( when he wanted to ) in the history of boxing, namely Roberto Duran, and only lost by a round, lets not forget, he chose to brawl, witness the return when he compressively outboxed, and demoralised Roberto by choosing to box, so sorry buddy not buying it.
    stay safe amigo.
     
  13. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I think he’s a good candidate yes
     
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  14. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The most complete fighter ever with only 40 fights who cherry picked the second half of his career? Really ?? man ... it will be interesting to see how many here take the bait on this one
     
  15. Monnever

    Monnever Member banned Full Member

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    Yea I told the truth their to how is that trolling learn what trolling is cause that's what your doing