Is Sugar Ray Robinson In A Class Of His own?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    That's correct, it's how they come back from defeat is the real test, as we know.

    Feel like I've turned in to Cus d'amato..
     
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  2. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    At WW? There may not have been anyone better but ofc no one is invincible. Definitely not as spectacular past that but hoes to show u how great he still was w his success at MW. Especially w carrying his power.

    Any book recommendations? I was thinking about getting Dave Andersons book but free to listen to other suggestions.
     
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  3. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I agree overwhelmingly, it is just that SRR won 40 fights before losing to LaMotta, who was 16 lbs. heavier!
    And beat him in their 5 future contests.
    Also he has 199 fights on his resume.
    He had an unbeaten streak of over 90 fights, & was 129-1-2 at his peak.
    Lost only once by KO.

    Likely the GOAT.
     
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  4. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Imagine if you will before same day weigh ins/
    Armstrong coming in a division lighter.
    Peak Duran as a featherweight.

    Maybe most unbeatable, the original Sugar as a lightweight. :wizard:
     
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  5. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Herb Boyd, Sugar Ray Robinson, Pound for Pound.
     
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    Mr Stagger Lee Active Member Full Member

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    A true pugilist, they are far and few between.
     
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  7. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Absolutely.
    Especially someone of Robinson s kind.
     
  8. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Imo, it depends what you mean "by in a class of his own". If you mean, a combination of how he looks on film, dominance in his prime, the depth of his win resume and his overall legacy, yes, hes in a class of his own in my view.

    If you're asking if his record is in a class of it's own, that's more debatable. For e.g., Greb arguably has an even deeper win resume.

    For what it's worth, on balance I rank SRR #1 pfp all time, but, criteria dependant, I'd have no problem with someone who ranked Greb (my #2) there. I also think credible arguments could be made for Langford (my #3) and Armstring (my #4).
     
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  9. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Thx will keep in mind next time I'm at my favourite local bookstore. Even if it has to b shipped like my Jack Johnson n Dempsey books.
     
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  10. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Yes it's a good one, there s a few out there about Sugar Ray Robinson that I've not read yet.
    Hope you enjoy it, when you get it anyway, pal.
     
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  11. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whoever's name is put against the resume and career stats you have posted, is by definition the best P4P fighter of all time.
    stay safe buddy. PS I know you know this, the KO you refer to is in fact a collapse due to heat exhaustion, which bolsters his stats !
     
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  12. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Thank you! In the meantime, I'm tryna remember which Fight Night that let u play in the same era as the irl fighter u selected. Might b the Mandela effect for me but I'm pretty sure that was a thing and I selected SRR. I hope if Undisputed comes out it lets us play in SRR n Louis eras.
     
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  13. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Sugar Ray Robinson was indeed in a class all by himself. He loved his family, his mom raised he and his siblings, he was very generous to a fault. He remained with his lifelong trainer George Gainford until his retirement in 1965. He won the World Middleweight Title a total of 5 times, the last being on March 25 1958, a 15 round decision win over champion Carmen Basilio. He was unsuccessful in his bid to unseat World Light Heavyweight Champion Joey Maxim on June 25 1952, Robinson remained in his corner at the start of round 14 due to heat Prostration. Robinson was very fast, had lightning combinations, great footwork, did have some one punch power as evidenced in his KO 5 of champion Gene Fullmer on May 1 1957, with a real snappy left hook. Robinson was a great sport in the ring, win or lose.
     
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