Is Teofimo Lopez the most inconsistent top level boxer around today?

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Is Lopez the most inconsistent active boxer ?

  1. Yes.

  2. No (state who you think is the most inconsistent today)

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  1. Mastrangelo

    Mastrangelo Active Member Full Member

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    He's not inconsistant - He's just consistantly fighting high level opponents and isn't fed guys with favorable styles. Who fights guys like Sandor Martin and Jamaine Ortiz when He doesn't have to?
    I have great respect for the way Teofimo is going about his career - and the fact that fans don't appreciate it is one of the reason there's so much cherry picking in the sport. If He fought some straight-forward brawler with no defence instead, someone made to make him look good - people would be hyping him up right now.
    He was engaged in close, high level boxing match and there's mostly just negativity coming his way instead.
    I should probably start the Teofimo Lopez fan-club, out of the sense of justice.
     
  2. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, he goes from looking world class to looking like a guy with little plan b. However I will say Ortiz was slept on, he’s a very good boxer and I’m unsurprised by how the fight went. Lopez was never going to blast him out.
     
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  3. DynamicMoves

    DynamicMoves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There is Fury, who lost to a novice just recently.
     
  4. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with others that 'styles make fights' is a big factor, with Loma and Taylor's innate come forward style playing in to Lopez hand's, and the fact they were both not at their best also factors in.

    It's very obvious that Lopez struggles when he has to cut the ring off, to which Martin and Ortiz attest.

    That said, I do think he favours being the underdog and has a tendency to fight up or down to his opponent as well.
     
  5. Hi-Tech

    Hi-Tech Active Member Full Member

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    What's funny is Boots also struggled (not as much as Teo) against a slick boxer when he fought Chukhadzhian. I think the Matias fight would have been perfect for Teo, hope Paro pulls out
     
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  6. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich A lot of people have pools Full Member

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    Seems like his last performance changed your vote.
     
  7. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    I’ve told you guys before the judges robbed Loma of a draw/W against Lopez and they did the same against Ortiz. Lopez should have lost or at least drew against an aged one armed/injured Lomachenko

    1 judge gave Loma 1 round against Lopez lmao, Top Rank have been trying to build Lopez as one of their next stars.

    The fix has always been in for Lopez
     
  8. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He had an opponent that has a horrible style and you know those fights are never gonna be spectacular.But kid won.To me boxing needs to make a stance runners should never be winning if they keep running ( if your name isn’t Void) and this fight is a good example.Thank you baxxxin!!
     
  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I don't think he is.

    I think he's caught lightening in a bottle twice.

    He fought and injured Lomachenko, which fair play he got the W and beat him legitimately, but I suspect a rematch would have gone to Loma.

    He then loses to Kambosos, struggles with Martin.

    Then he beats Taylor, again fair play it was a legitimate W and he beat the man ranked at the top, but Taylor himself should have lost to Catterall so I'm not really sure how much Taylor actually offers at this stage.

    Then he struggles with Ortiz, who Loma also struggled with.

    His two biggest victories could so easily have been defeats had he fought the best version of each.

    This is Lopez's level, he's just caught lightening twice, I'm sure of it.
     
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  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Super Boots did struggle with Karen's style and to be fair the later had some amazing feet and when he did let his hands against him he was having good success. Problem is rarely did so whereas Ortiz was throwing and landing consistently throughout even if his output was low whilst making Teofimo miss and keeping his connect percentage very low too.

    I don't hold the US school of slickness in high regard at all and I find it dreadful to watch and thoroughly unmanly. That being said, Ortiz employed the same tactics and game plan that we see others from across the pond who do the same get praised to high heaven for and fast-tracked up the P4P rankings and lauded as greats and the future of the sport only without all the cowardly holding, oftentimes against opponents they're bigger, much or way bigger than.

    Usyk completely outboxes his opponents the right way because the Cossack School is a far superior school of Slickness and one which is a skills based form or slickness and not a fear based one.

    Do I prefer that to what Ortiz did last night?

    Do I prefer watching Loma taking his opponents to slick school on the front foot, and still be able to make them miss whilst landing with his own shots with ease against every conceivable style, usually against much or way bigger opponents who hold huge physical advantages over him, and having done so against lots of punchers usually who are much bigger than him?

    And do I consider what Usyk and Loma do far more manly and worthy of respect and far more difficult to do than what members of the US school of slickness do?

    Hell yes I do to all of that and rightly so but Ortiz still won that fight

    I think Matias walks Teo down, sucks him into his nightmarish vortex of hell, before drowning him and making him pull a no mas. Stylistically he's a better fit for Teo than Ortiz and Martin but I still don't see Teo beating him.
     
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  11. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    I'm not sure whether most inconsistent is even easy to define... I mean, how can you be the most inconsistent without being consistently inconsistent? :lol:

    In all seriousness... He's certainly up there somewhere - I voted no primarily because he's not clearly out on his own as far more inconsistent than others... I'll throw Tyson Fury up there as an example - he's a different kind of inconsistent, but he's another that'll be up there somewhere.
     
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  12. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No such thing as a fluke in boxing.
     
  13. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  14. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    I think Julio César Martinez might take the cake for most inconsistent top-level fighter honestly.
     
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  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Teofimo was doing this to his opponents down at 135

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    Moves up to 140 and he's only stopped 1 of his 5 opponents up there and he should have 2 Ls at 140 and 1 at 135

    Jermallo was a devastating power puncher at 154 against all those guys he was much naturally bigger than. Moves up to 160 and has only stopped 1 of his last 6 opponents and the opponent he did stop is a 154 pounder leprechaun.

    To be fair, Jermallo stopped his first two opponents at 160 albeit one of them was a peg-leg cripple whose leg was completely messed up going into the fight and could barely walk properly, let alone fight

    David Benavidez's power didn't look so impressive in his LHW debut as it did down at 168. Granted, Gvozdyk is very tough, though