Is that part of the problem with the WBSS? That they select divisions that tend to be weak overall

Fair enough on Ward, but why exclude Inoue exactly? And whatever Usyk goes on to achieve (or not) at heavyweight doesn't really undermine what he did in the WBSS - IMO. He's an elite talent. I still think he will prove it by winning the WBO - whether against Joyce or Joshua. Fury I think Usyk would come unstuck though.

So IMO, there is only one WBSS winner that is not up to scratch - and that's Smith, and he only one the tourney because Groves had one arm. But of course Groves was not elite either, it was a poor WBSS for 168, I can't argue that one. Three out of Four ain't bad?

 

Gassiev was really good at what he did, just a bit one sided I would say.

 

Inoue is definitely an elite talent.

As is Usyk.

Smith, Breidis and Taylor might well be rulers in a weak division, but they are indeed rulers of their divisions. They all became the number 1 fighter in that weight class, in the world.

That's pretty much the definition of elite.

 

OP continues to play the village idiot.

Usyk and Gassiev have been injured for two years, and barely fought. It doesn't mean they aren't talented. It just means that they were hurt. These things happen in sports.

Usyk will be remembered as an ATG regardless of what happens next, and Gassiev and Briedis have a very good chance, BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEATEN QUALITY FIGHTERS.

I wouldn't expect a nut-hugging Wilder fan to understand that.

USYK VICTIMS
Gassiev
Briedis
Huck
Bellew
Glowacki
Hunter
Mchunu
Chisora

GASSIEV VICTIMS
Dorticos
Lebedev
Wlodarcyzk

BRIEDIS VICTIMS
Dorticos
Glowacki
Huck
Charr
Perez
Gevor
Duradola

Any or all of these guys could end up as ATG with just a couple of more significant wins.

Now compare that to Deontay Wilder, who OP is a nuthugger for:

WILDER'S VICTIMS

A guy who took a dive
A guy so obese he had a disease where he was pissing gravy
A guy so sick that he was only medically cleared the day of the fight
A schoolteacher
A Las Vegas hooker
An internet buffoon
A Mexican burrito mascot
etc.

OP has a warped sense of reality.

 

I never said that Gassiev was one fight away. You pulled that entirely out of your ass.

I said "with a couple of more significant wins." Is reading that difficult for you?

You don't have any sense of what makes a great fighter, or even a good one.

You may not see Usyk or Gassiev beating the top heavies, but they either will or they won't regardless of your opinion. The thing is, they have put themselves in position to try with their stellar work at cruiser.

But go ahead and hang on Wilder's nuts. That's going to work out for you.

 

Honestly I think the WBSS is very welcomed and it achieved its goal, to give the fans good fights between the top of their divisions. Yea we'll never see a tourney like that at welter or heavy or lightweight, or middleweight but it is what it is, still a good concept, and I'm sure you'll agree. Time will tell whether Taylor or Usyk gain more titles if they move up to more dangerous divisions.
Lets hope the WBSS continues into the next year because the WBSS isn't a fail imo, more fighters like Prograis or Inoue should have the cojones to join in and test their skills against other top fighters.


MAKE BOXING GREAT AGAIN

LOL

 

There's some strange, unreasonable butthurt in the OP.

 

CW division always had been considered as weak division by nationalistic and tribal fans because they were/ are scared that division champs are not from their countries.
If champs aren't from their nation, country, then nationalistic fans are seeking compensation mechanism. Calling division not great and weak etc.
It is easy to understand why CW division is called " weak ". Divison without long term champs from U.S is " weak " for casual fans in forums.

The same Glowacki, ohh, this is just some pole from Poland.
He won WBO tittle in fight vs Huck in U.S not as hometown fighter and did succesful defense vs Cunningham in U.K.
Ohh, it is not heavyweight will be casual excuse. If he was from U.S opinions about him in forums happened to be different. How good and cool he is because had balls to fight aboard and do tittle defense on foreign soil. How cool he was etc.
Usyk in order to get his first major tittle : the WBO World tittle had in the ring 30 y.o undefeated champion in Glowacki ( 26-0-0) and fight happened in Poland.
Definitely looks " weak division ".

 

Bantam always was very competitive division.
CW? I think not bad. The same Dorticos with high KO%, he had lost only vs Gassiev and was pretty competitive until he had landed on him and later capitalised achieved effect. Promising Tabiti.
Glowacki, had lost only vs Usyk by decision, never had been stopped. Like nothing surprising but he is dangerous till last second if remember his fight vs Huck. the same Briedis, ofc migh be boring but if in good shape might look amazing.
These fights: Tabiti vs Dorticos, Briedis vs Glowacki and Dorticos vs Briedis were without easily predictable outcome like these A.J vs Pulev for example etc alike boring stuff cos too predictable outcome.

 

AJ didn`t look good enough v Pulev to beat Usyk, Joyce was handily out-boxed by Usyk in WBSS tournament and Joyce just looked great spanking Dubois.

 

Froch got out-classed by Ward he was nowhee near Usyk`s level.

 

Gassiev had one fight and KOd his opponent in the first round, I wouldn't say that's "Not looking elite", he looked good, you can't say elite or not because his opponent was over 40 and ranked like 50.

 

This argument falls apart completely when you realise I'm not from USA.