Is that part of the problem with the WBSS? That they select divisions that tend to be weak overall

I say that Usyk-Joshua is a 50/50 fight, but if it happens, I'll throw the dice on Usyk. How about a month off bet, big mouth?

 

Usyk has not been bothered as a HW. Both wins were relatively easy.

 

You feel yourself enough comfortable to direct venom at whole division and WBSS tournaments and hope not get backfire?
Literally you are from these fans obsessed with HW division.
When the same Usyk moves up to HW division kids like you type in forums endless comments " he didn't accomplished enough, he doesn't deserves a tittle fight ".
Literally You are venom by yourself and your place is in ignore lists.

 

The same WBSS tournaments had gave boxers opportunities to get more well known. More than this, in these tournaments boxers had fought for chance to get Ali trophy. Frequently happens fights with tittles on line. Boxers usually are close in their ages, matchups very competitive.

Dorticos in WBSS I.
Dorticos had been noticed after he had won WBA World tittle in fight vs 31 y.o guy ( before fight vs Dorticos this guy had 21-1-0 pro record with 21 KOs ). Dorticos won this fight with impressive stoppage.
1/2 final fight: Dorticos vs 24 y.o Gassiev for WBA and IBF world tittles and right to compete in final for Ali trophy.
Nice, unpredictable outcome fight.
Undefeated 31.y.o Dorticos with 22-0-0 ( 21KOs) record vs undefeated 24 y.o Gassiev with 25-0-0 (18KOs) record.
Yes, Dorticos had lost this one. Does this means that he is bad boxer? Don't we wish to see competitive, close matchups?

Dorticos in WBSS II.
Again we had unpredictale outcome fights with Dorticos.
Tabiti had defeated 27 y.o dude with 23-0-0 ( 16KOs ) record and advanced to 1/2 final fight vs Dorticos.
Fight for IBF World tittle and rights to fight in WBSS final for Ali trophy.
33. y.o Dorticos, boxer with record 23-1-0 ( 21 KOs) vs 29 y.o Tabiti with record 17-0-0 ( 13 KOs ).
Cool fight, there is WBSS semi final and fight for tittle, 2 in 1.
Dorticos gave us to see nice and impressive fight. He again managed to get World tittle, this time not WBA but IBF tittle.

Okey, he had to fight vs Briedis for Ali trophy and to place his IBF tittle on line too.
Briedis if in best his shape is horrible to fight with. For me he looked like in normal/ good shape but not his best version.
Dorticos lost this fight.
Was this unpredictable fight? Yeah, especially if not possible to tell shape this Briedis does have.

 

I also think that Dorticos, maybe even Tabiti are more dangerous than 39 y.o Pulev version.
For the same A.J too.

 

You'd be basing that off of nothing but wishful thinking though wouldn't you

 

Wishful thinking is that your dear A.J instead of running around panda and taking on 39 y.o had in the ring at least Usyk if not Fury.
Dorticos fouhgt more dangerous for him opposition in his last fights than A.J.

How you kids laughted at Ruiz in internet before A.J vs Ruiz I. Easy night in office, Ruiz will get stopped and of course is absolute underdog.
Then how Ruiz will get finished in rematch.
When it didn't happened, again still is good and cool.
How praised running around Ruiz in rematch.

Wishful thinking continues by praising win vs absolute and total underdog in 39 y.o Pulev.
Congratulations!

 

outstanding post. very nuanced and educated perspective, probably over the heads of most on this forum, but you should have a regular column in Ring Magazine as far as I'm concerned.

some common sense approach to the modern trend of overhyping and grossly overrating particular fighters

 

Definitely. LoL at your head too.

Overhyping?
The same HW division worshiped by posters here. Casaul fans stuff here.
If so high level elite division is division where 32 y.o 252 lbs prospect ranked #4 or #5 etc and really not bad boxer can be KTFOed cold by 40 years old 224 lber that next month had turned 41 y.o. It is definitely true proof about division's high elite level and beauty how this division is more competive than CW division with " weak division " image.

Then supposedly " easy night in the office for hero " vs panda ranked #10-#11 etc.
What an uppset.
And nice rematch: highly evalued star running in distance with panda manages to get UD win.
Then next beauty: a superstar vs 39 y.o Pulev, an absolute underdog.

If even after Ruiz I fight I had assumed that superstar is capable easily and quickly to beat up Usyk and Wilder, now I do gave 50/50 chances not more to defeat motivated and in shape Wilder.

It is " very high level ultimate division " where I this year had noticed only ONE damn unpredictable fight : Fury vs Wilder II.
I'm thanklful to both of them for this one regardless who had won this.
Also had been excited with unpredictable surprise and cool KTFO by 40 y.o 224 lbs Povetkin handled out to 32 y.o 252 lbs Whyte.

 

Don't feed this troll. He's got a standing offer for a month-off bet from me for all the world to see. If he has a nutsack, he'll take it. If not, he is talking entirely out of his ass.

Actually, I'll let you know how it turns out--he has no nutsack.

 

Carl Froch is not an all-time great by any means, he is not even in HOF.

And you can bet Usyk will be in HOF easily, likely first-ballot.

So you can't really compare the two.

 

Bump.

Let's discuss in context of Dubblechin possibly being a fanboy who knows nothing about boxing.

 

Usyk beats both, one down one to go

 

This thread aged badly.