After discussing Paul Williams loss to Quintana with some users and seeing how hard they use it to slight Paul Williams I stepped back to think about how many of boxing's greats have caught "L's or Losses" in their career Duran Lost 16 times Julio Cesar Chavez Lost 6 times Aaron Pryor Lost 1 time Pernell Whitaker Lost 4 times Ray Leonard Lost 3 times Thomas Hearns Lost 5 times Marvin Hagler Lost 3 Times Ali Lost 5 Times Evander Lost 9 Times Tyson Lost 6 Times So My Question To You Is..... Is The "0" in A Boxers Record Over Rated?
Ofcourse, but the "0" is more important these days as you're more marketable with the "0". Anywho, its about accomplishments, look at Pacquiao.:good
yes. Definately. Williams should beat Quintana a second time for good measure. Shut the detractors up
Yes, but... some fighters seem to get destroyed for never losing. i'm never gonna argue that calzaghe's got the greatest CV ever, but he seems to get hacked at for having the '0'. It's no mean feat going undefeated, no matter the level of competition, because you could always lose your focus. but on the whole, nothing wrong with losing a couple, esp if you were always competitive.
That Was just the first statement that made me think about this question.... and to be honest i think the 0 is ruining the sport.... its keeping the best from seeing the best.... I hate to say it but if floyd wasnt so worried about his 0 we would have seen him fight cotto or margarito already... he's making sure that he gets his money worth while he still can... but if you took away the 0.. he would have to actually earn the respect of being the baddest man ... not just letting the 0 represent hes the baddest man they tried to do it with cotto & pavlik but they couldnt escape losing their zero but maybe its a good thing.... because its begining to show a transitional point for the sport... I think the 0 is ruining the sport.... to be honest.. if it wasnt for the "0"'s in fighters records floyd would have met up with cotto or margarito already and calzaghe would have met up with chad dawson or someone of higher caliber already and probably win those fights and earn the right to be called the baddest
yes and we are to blame As boxing fans We want our prospects to be undefeated & Our Champions not to be.
I agree on Dawson - he should either fight Dawson, or admit that his time is past (I believe JC has lost speed and effectiveness, there were horrible signs of decline vs hopkins, who lost largely on unbelievable inactivity). However, he pretty much always fought the best available to him - or at least stepped up when people genuinely believed there was a better super middle (Lacy and Kessler).