Is the backlash against Joshua fueling the "keep your 'O' at all costs" disease of boxing?

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  1. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    excuse being made if you fight good people you might lose
     
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  2. DonnyMo

    DonnyMo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol guys.....

    Look at this tub o lard he lost to!

    People trying to rationalize this is an amazing mental experiment.
     
  3. Okin129

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    I don‘t care about the 0 but the backlash is deserved 100% for a couple of reasons.

    1. Joshua didn‘t lose to a top guy ( Ruiz wasn‘t rated in the top 10 by Ring magazine,Boxrec etc. )

    2. The way he lost

    3. Eddie Hearns unbearable and arrogant behaviour

    4. Pricing out of fights

    5. A-side talk

    6. Biased referees and judges in Matchroom events

    7. Sweet Caroline

    8. Eddie Hearn

    9. Joshua fanboys telling everyone how he would beat every HW easily ( including the likes of Wilder, Fury, Usyk, Ortiz... )

    10. Joshua fans always ridiculing and talking about Wilder ( big reason for the Wilder fans )

    11. Joshua fans always talking about money

    12. Eddie Hearn

    13. Anthony Joshua’s racist remarks and the laughable excuse for it.

    14. Football hooligan casual fans

    15. That Hobbit Adam Smith

    16. Eddie ****ing Hearn
     
  4. Brujo

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    Imagine how heavily criticized Wilder would be if he fought Ruiz and won. Oh Lord.
     
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  5. piprules

    piprules Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It’s the one of two things that annoy me about boxing, the other being robberies. I watched a fight between Bruno and bone crusher smith, and smith had quite a few loses and he was the defending champ, will we have champions ever again that have multiple loses?
     
  6. G Man

    G Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Reminds me a bit of Khan's career, the feeling of an accident waiting to happen, and when it did a lot of people said "I told you so." To be honest, the ridiculous hype warranted some derision.
     
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  7. Alphafighter

    Alphafighter Active Member banned Full Member

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    Hahaahahaha, i rewatched the fight again. Its hilarious an over confident bodybuilder expecting quick work against a fatty and then he gets the E-Honda treatment. The fatty was actually faster and more athletic than the chinny body builder in the end. Ruiz ***** slapped AJ all over the ring and made him quit. Priceless scene.
     
  8. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Less than 100 years ago you didn't even get a title shot until you had a loss. So many guys already lost by time they became champion it was the norm. So Wilder and Joshua lost. Or in the case of Wilder he has a "draw" I still can't believe one judge gave him 7 rounds in a fight where he won 3 tops but that's another story. Should make for an interesting division.
     
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  9. JDub

    JDub Active Member Full Member

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    Unfortunately yes! People are way to hung up on the 0. Half the reason the big fights don't get made.
     
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  10. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Had Josha lost in a big fight against an elite opponent no one would be writing him off.

    The fact the lost was against a decent/good skilled opponent, when AJ was expected to win in cruise mode and begin the first steps in conquering America, you can be damn sure there will be was going to be a huge backlash.

    Don't try to blame the inevitable backlash back on the spectators reaction to this event as an attempt to explain away the reasons for why a lot of fighters price themselves out and do not want to fight.
     
  11. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    hes not really fought a good person though. He fought a stand-in for a bad person, and lost. Its Wlad/Corrie all over again, except not the same magnitude.
     
  12. FartWristedBum

    FartWristedBum I walk this Earth like a bum Full Member

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    Thanks for all the comments so far, good to get some perspective.
    My own take is that Joshua has never put himself on a pedestal or "priced himself out" of fights, I understand some being sick with the corporate juggernaut of which he is representative though.
    Some of the critcism is a bit "kick him while he's down" for my taste but fair play, it's nice to see a top dog get soundly smashed off their perch.
    I will certainly enjoy the rematch and the HW scene evolving over the next few years.
     
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  13. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The trashing is in no way deserved. It’s disgraceful, boxing is a sport where you can lose at any second. Floyd mayweather ruined boxing with his “Keep the 0 at any cost attitude”.
    Ali was an overrated bum going by this logic
     
  14. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    The backlash is due to the manner of the loss and who it came against. Had it come in a close, competitive fight with Fury or Usyk or someone like that then there wouldn't be half as much kvetching going on. Saying that, there is a mentality among casual fans that any time a fighter takes a loss they're damaged goods. I heard it after the Parker vs Whyte fight for goodness sake. So yes, fan mentality is definitely making it hard for fighters to dare to take risks, especially at the upper end of the spectrum. Lower down it's not so bad, IMO.
     
  15. The Townsend

    The Townsend Zeus. Full Member

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    In order to lean from your mistakes you have to lose.

    Boxing is toxic when it comes down to the '0' Fighting the best, beating the best and losing against the best in my opinion makes you the best.

    Avoiding the best to keep the '0' like Mayweather does not make you the best. In fact It makes you boring. But if you fight the best, beat the best and keep the '0' then you really are something special.