is the clinch/inside fighting a lost art these days

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  1. good right hand

    good right hand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ward and gatti, castillo and corralles, fought tremendous wars head to head,

    but im thinking within the space that your only throwing punches with about 8 inches or less sometime bending the rules by holding and hitting.

    duran in the clinch

    tony on the ropes

    and the seemingly last of the great infighters in bernard hopkins


    i guess im thinking that infighting (like body punching) is such a effective art because it breaks down, frustates, roughs up and can even hurt an opponens that i cant believe that there arent as much fighter's infighting? :think
     
  2. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Surely you can't say such a thing about an era which produced the all-time master, John Ruiz!
     
  3. good right hand

    good right hand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    thats is true! although never watch his fights, i cant deny that he is a two time title holder and had beat many good fighters with his wrestling style.
     
  4. Florida boy

    Florida boy Bodacious Full Member

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    Mayweather put it on Hatton, even though the ref got in the way a lot.
     
  5. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Almost. Perhaps if the ref's did not break up clinching much and allowed fighters to fight their way out of a clinch, we see better in-fighters.
     
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  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Ac cording to reports Billy Petrolle had no equal as an infighter,yet he has never ,to my knowledge had a thread dedicated to him. Sam Langford was terrific inside ,some said because his eyesight was so poor he couldnt afford to mess about at distance.Hopkins is certainly crafty at in fighting Toney is good too,the thing is a lot of boxers today have relatively few fights before challenging for a title ,so they dont have time to learn their trade. The emphasis is on an unbeaten record ,so guys are steered away from learning fights because they are too risky for their marketability.
     
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  7. good right hand

    good right hand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    very true, i think most of the good and great fighters of our time are very athletic but have no where near the hundreds of fights that some fighters have tallied in the late great careers.

    i heard that sammy angott was one of the greatest in fighters of all time.
     
  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    John Ruiz is the alltime clinch master, perhaps along with Sammy Angott and late Muhammad Ali. They may hate him, but he's found a niche in the world of boxing and a level of success that most similarly physically ungifted fighters have failed to attain. For that, and for defiantly thrusting himself time and time again into the heavyweight picture with his ugly, but effective style, he deserves some praise. His record against former middleweight champions however, deserves no praise at all. Both Roy Jones and James Toney would have both failed dismally as heavyweights and both would be subjected to humiliating ko defeats if they had fought Lennox Lewis or either Klitschkos instead of Ruiz.
     
  9. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Another great clincher was of course Ernie Terrell, also known as The Octopus.