Is the GGG age factor overstated, the Canelo ring rust underrated?

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  1. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Here's some facts, that being facts, should not be discussed or dismissed:
    - Canelo's legit elite, who legitimately made the first fight close, landing hard shots
    - Canelo's legitimately failed 2 tests in a then-cancelled fight, yet no legit evidence of cheating in any other
    - GGG legitimately lost a step in last 2-3 fights noticed by elite fighters & trainers, yet the majority of them had him legitimately winning last year

    Beyond the lead-up, psych warfare & weigh-in, oddsmakers perception has changed significantly: GGG was heavy favorite before the 1st fight, firm favorite before the cancelled 2nd and it's almost even now, with big bucks landing on Canelo in the last minute.

    * Does this mean inside sources know something we don't? Does this mean another year in GGG father time is another reason more ppl. throw money on Canelo? GGG's age is the talk of town, but is it a single factor that's being overstated compared to all others?

    And what about Canelo not being in a competitive fight for a year and having knee surgery? Sure he had half a camp, but that's not the same. So is the Canelo ring rust and all that's not actually fighting in the past 12 months a factor that's understated?
     
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  2. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    My idea of this fight is that,
    a) We get a weaker version of Alvarez this time around. b) Golovkin might have degraded a little more, but not much. c) We get more honest judges this time around, as last fight was another embarrasment for boxing integrity. We might even see the Lewis vs Holyfield II effect, where the judges overcompensate. d) The fight will look a lot like the first one. e) There will be a lot of spinning afterwards.
     
  3. channy

    channy 4.7.33 banned Full Member

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    Judges won't be needed this time around, GGG will be at his most destructive, he is going to walk right through canelo and brutally beat the life out of him.
     
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  4. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But but does that have to do anything with age and rust on both ends? Or just different tactics and all.
     
  5. channy

    channy 4.7.33 banned Full Member

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    Different tactics from GGG me thinks, he wants punish him real bad, and I think it will be shown when he hands him his beating.

    Canelo will be crying like Biggs did against Tyson.
     
  6. BCS8

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    Let's put it like this: I would not be on this fight. Pretty sure GGG does him in, but there are so many "but what about" s that could be major factors.
     
  7. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I think GGG is in a slight decline yes, its only natural, but it's not a marked slide in form or condition. He's not a slick boxer mover who relies on speed & athleticism a lot, those who are of that ilk u can really tend to see when they are slipping...

    He's quite a young & relatively fresh 36 though. Not much wear & tear, hardly ever injured, never been dropped, never rattled, he's a machine...

    I think he's probably about 80/5% the fighter he was a few years ago..
     
  8. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Definitely D).
     
  9. RacingBeat

    RacingBeat Casual lives matter Full Member

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    I think so with the latter, hope so for both