Is the greatest boxer ever from 70 years ago?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by reznick, Apr 19, 2021.

Is he?

  1. Yes

  2. No

  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

    Mar 17, 2010
    Sugar Ray Robinson was 10 years deep into his career in 1951. That would be 70 years ago from today. Is he the greatest boxer of all time? And does that make the greatest boxer ever a guy who fought 70-80 years ago?
  2. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    Probably earlier!
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  3. Guru88

    Guru88 Member Full Member

    Sep 6, 2020
    Yes, and Henry Armstrong is the 2nd best, who came even earlier
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  4. Indefatigable

    Indefatigable Active Member banned Full Member

    Mar 6, 2021
  5. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    The best boxer came more than a hundred years ago!

    Product of their times.

    I love that period, but by god I don't want it back!
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  6. Stiches Yarn

    Stiches Yarn Active Member Full Member

    Jan 2, 2021
    Yes. Also Ezzard Charles and Archie Moore were fighting at that time too.
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  7. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Hagiographer Full Member

    Oct 28, 2017
    It would probably takes some serious societal changes, and possibly a cataclysm to happen.
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  8. SheenLantern

    SheenLantern Active Member Full Member

    Jan 13, 2016
    Nah, Ali is the GOAT.
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  9. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

    Oct 12, 2020
    Suga Valuev was easily the better of the two "Sugars"
  10. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    Walking Dead scenario, or nuclear war perhaps?
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  11. FuryisGOAT

    FuryisGOAT New Member Full Member

    Feb 26, 2020
    Marciano was boxing then. The real GOAT
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  12. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

    Mar 26, 2005
    He could "out box" the boxers...and "out punch" the punchers......what more could you ask for?
  13. thistle

    thistle Well-Known Member Full Member

    Dec 21, 2016
    YES, and there were hundreds of them,

    as I always say GREAT, Great, great, with little between them.

    and that is the Strongest Era's First, then all other Greats through all of the years.

    there's NOT 10 or 15 tiers, theres maybe 5, 6 or 7, with little between them, at the Top.

    the Sport has produced thousands of great fighters over the 150 years.
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  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    Mar 21, 2007
    A solid candidate, and interestingly, probably the most recent candidate for the number one spot.

    But it's that Greatest/Best thing isn't it. All very confusing, not least because Ray would be a longstanding lightweight these days...
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  15. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Oct 22, 2015
    Yes the greatest fighter in history is from 70 yrs ago.
    R.Robinson, and most of the atg's from the 40's
    until the mid 90's .
    Reason being is
    activity and the experiences brought
    on by it.
    If a fighter is fighting 2-3 times a month , one must assume
    he is training daily, staying in shape and sharp. He is
    developing razor sharp countering skills and learning
    exactly what he does well. Also the trainers during those
    era's generally were skilled enough to see what a fighter
    did well and tried to build on that.
    They didn't try turning George Foreman into Ali.
    Than factor in physical ability, heart , determination,
    size,and some old fashion luck of being in
    one's prime when some of the greatest talents
    in history are in their primes and in or with in
    said fighters maximum range of physical ability.
    Look at Robinson's resume. From welter through
    Middleweight he fought some of the greatest talents
    in those weight classes history.
    A Who's who of top fighters........ Ever!
    Robinson fought a myriad of different styles and physical abilities.
    Some were gifted with excellent physical ability, some not
    blessed with physical talent but who worked their way
    to greatness by determination , and will to win.
    Robinson is the G.O.A.T In my opinion . It doesn't mean
    on any given day he couldn't be defeated ,even in his prime.
    But when looking at the opponents defeated, the way he defeated
    them, his time on top, and the overall length of his career .
    I don't believe any boxer could've' accomplished more than
    Robinson did.
    And the way the game is set up today, they never will.
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