Is the Heavyweight division set for all-time low?

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  1. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Harrison is still better than Michael Bentt.
     
  2. standing 8countboxing

    standing 8countboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's really saying something...
     
  3. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    Soon Vitali will retire and it will be lower than it is now. One or more of the other top 5 fighters (Haye, Adamek, Povetkin) will lose to Wladimir and may be out of the picture for good. Doesn't really matter. Guys like Boytsov, Ustinov, Solis and Helenius will step up and replace them

    The division is fine. The current crop are decent, and fighters coming through look good. We have a general consensus top 20 ATG heavyweight fighting regularly. The division is alright unless you dislike white fighters or Europeans

    Presumably you're talking about American football, a sport played in ONE country in the whole world :patsch
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    if mormeck beats wlad :dead:dead
     
  5. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ring top 10 today:
    Champ: Wlad
    1.Vitali
    2. Haye
    3. Povetkin
    4. Adamek
    5. Chagaev
    6. Chambers
    7. Boytsov
    8. Valuev
    9. Dimitrenko
    10. Arreola

    I'd put it at least on par with any of the top 10's from the 80's, and it's looking to get better as prospects like Pulev and Helenius continue to make head way.

    What hurts this era of heavyweights the most is that there aren't enough fights between contenders. Too many of them seem content to wait until the Klitschko's fall and don't want to take any huge risks before that. Talentwise, the division looks average compared to the highest and lowest it's been.
     
  6. Tonifranz

    Tonifranz Active Member Full Member

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    I would say this is average.

    There are worst eras in HW boxing.
     
  7. Interceptor

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    :rofl
     
  8. Spman20999

    Spman20999 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree that the heavyweight division is filled with Euro-level competition... However, "tough euro-level competition" is an oxymoron.
     
  9. good

    good 'bad' Full Member

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    :lol:
    ..this is funny..but not true.
     
  10. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Here's the year-end rankings from 25 years ago:

    Champ: Michael Spinks
    1. Pinklon Thomas
    2. Larry Holmes
    3. Tim Witherspoon
    4. Tony Tubbs
    5. Greg Page
    6. Gerrie Coetzee
    7. Trevor Berbick
    8. Carl Williams
    9. Mike Weaver
    10. Michael Dokes

    You're right, that's a real murderer's row compared to today's top 10. :lol:
     
  11. Fuzzy Logic

    Fuzzy Logic New Member Full Member

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    This is definitely true, there are always lulls between eras and we are just stuck with it now. All we can do is bear it out and enjoy the other weight divisions. Oh and hope Haye and Harrison end each other
     
  12. diamondDave

    diamondDave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I disagree with those that say the division is at an all time low. I am not sure that the division has ever been as so thoroughly dominated as it has been by the Klitschkos. When you look at the size, speed, skill, and power of the two brothers, I think you might have to make them the favorite over any other heavyweight in history with the possible exception of Lennox Lewis.
     
  13. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Got some arguments to add? Tell us why the 80s HW scene had a deeper talent pool than the last 10 years? I can't wait.

    To get you started, here's a list of Larry Holmes' title challengers in the 80s:

    Lorenzo Zanon
    Leroy Jones
    Scott LeDoux
    Muhammad Ali
    Trevor Berbick
    Leon Spinks
    Renaldo Snipes
    Gerry Cooney
    Randall Cobb
    Lucien Rodriguez
    Tim Witherspoon
    Scott Frank
    James Smith
    David Bey
    Carl Williams
    Michael Spinks

    And here's Tyson's title fight opponets in the 80s:
    Trevor Berbick
    James Smith
    Pinklon Thomas
    Tony Tucker
    Tyrell Biggs
    Larry Holmes
    Tony Tubbs
    Michael Spinks
    Frank Bruno
    Carl Williams

    So, please enlighten us. The 80s was a talent rich golden era for HW boxing? :lol::lol::lol: The sad truth is that other than Holmes (early 80s) and Tyson (late 80s) the depth of the HW scene was pretty much a wasteland, certainly not better by a huge margin than today.
     
  14. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Other than lewis's and ali' era, wlads dont compare to badly.

    the issue i have is with the lack of big fights.

    2010 could end with the following hw title fights.

    haye v harrison
    vitali v briggs
    wlad v mormeck.

    two have been signed, lets hope wlad sees sense and takes on a top contender.

    outside the beltholders, contenders wont fight each other.
     
  15. Davies

    Davies Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This.

    Or when he fought Sosnowski? no one made a big fuss then, A-Force is probly better than Sosnowskiand a far more meaningful fight (money-wise in england)