Is the IBF the only half decent governing body, of the big four, these days?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Decebal, Sep 28, 2008.


  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    It used to be that the IBF was the most corrupt of the lot, but since the FBI started taking an interest in boxing, things have changed for the better. These days, the IBF even insist that their champs fight mandatory challengers and even give them a deadline to do it by.

    The WBC used to be bad, under Don King + Sulaiman, but now, they're not much better. They don't enforce mandatories against champs they see as stars or future stars (e.g. Dawson and Diaconu fiasco - they only dropped Dawson once he dropped the belt!) and they make guys who shouldn't be ranked in the top 3 mandatory challengers! What has Vitaly Klitschko done recently to deserve to become mandatory challenger? What is this emeritus champion bollocks? Either you make overhyped, well-marketed champs fight mandatories like everyone else and have retired stars of the ring have to prove themselves again after being out of action for a couple of years before they get to be mandatory challengers, or you become a joke of a sanctioning organisation! They also have too many interim champs and regular champs at the same time!

    http://www.fightnews.com/fightnews_2/headlines//EkkEAFyEFVfoXyCdOT.html


    Then there's thw WBA...where shall I start? They don't enforce mandatories (e.g. Kessler and Mundine fiasco), they have regular and super champions (which has the advantage that the super champ can unify and not having to fight loads of mandatory challengers, whilst concentrating on gaining all the belts) and then they have, in some divisions, a couple of regular and super champions all at the same time. Nashiro, Arce and Mijares all WBA champs? Huh?


    The WBO...well, except that they never enforce any mandatories and let TV veto which mandatories have a chance of actually being made, dody refereeing and letting the champ fight anyone at all in voluntary defences, they're OK.

    Now, I'm not saying the IBF are perfect. They're not! They will rank almost anyone in the Top 15, allowing their champ to fight whomever they want. In that sense, they're either corrupt or letting their champ get away with fighting meaningless fights. But their mandatory challengers are pretty decent, and they do enforce them, on time. Fortunately, they also strip fighters who don't fight their mandatories, even when fans are up in arms! (e.g. Calzaghe).

    So, out of the big four, the IBF is clearly the least bad sanctioning body!

    And before you start telling me about The Ring, let me remind you The Ring is not a sanctioning body. It is a prize given by a magazine to the fighter they consider best in every division, usually because he has beaten the previous fighter who was given that prize.

    Oh, yeah...the IBO! Well, we've discussed this before:

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55371&page=2
     
  2. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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    the ibf is the worst imo
     
  3. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    They're all ridiculous. The fact that a division could have possibly:

    WBC - Emeritius Champion, Champion, Interim Champion.
    WBA - Super Champion, Regular Champion, Interim Champion.
    IBF - Champion, Interim Champion.
    WBO - Champion, Interim Champion.

    And even a seperate champion with the Ring Belt. That's 11 possible champions in 1 division, which is ridiculous. Not to mention all the other obscure belts like the WBF, WBU, IBA, IBO. Then that's 15 different champions.
     
  4. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I never said one or the other was worth more or less; I never said the IBF champs were better than the rest or that the WBA and WBO champs were weaker. I said the IBF is the least bad sanctioning body, because it enforced mandatories and has one champ...unlike the others. Even if all the IBF champs were the weakest and the WBO or WBA or WBC champs the strongest, the IBF would still be by far the least bad governing body, right now.
     
  5. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    There will never be one body for the same reason there will never be one brand of operating system on PCs.
     
  6. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Very true.

    Competition in terms of the number of governing bodies may not be good for boxing, but it sure is good for their bank balances.
     
  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Much more than pro boxing is worth, that's for sure. Not only would current champs boycott it (they would lose money because they could no longer market themselves as world champs), but promoters would boycott it (they would lose money too, for the same reason)...not to mention the existing governing bodies and all the contenders and ranked fighters out there, hoping to get a title shot one day for one of the big four. So...it will never happen. It could only work if someone payed off all the big promoters, all the top fighters, all the hangers on of all the big sanctioning bodies, etc.
     
  8. elgrancampeon

    elgrancampeon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The IBF has never done anything wrong! The FBI was just up on their case for taking their initials.
     
  9. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    an Interim Champion is not a Champion, even by the sanctioning bodies' standards. He is just a mandatory challenger, with the difference being that if the champion doesn't fight him, instead of fighting for the vacant title the interim champion gets the belt automatically.

    Again, noone considers the interim champion to be a champion.
     
  10. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    1) that fight was bull****. Some American Hometown cooking. I heard that the judges were from the same state as Malignaggi, and that even the ref was American.

    2) one mandatory every 9 months, those are the rules. Ngoudjo earned that mandatory spot.

     
  11. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    I hate this line that the WBC is the best and most prestigious.
    Witter kept reeling that **** off so i was glad when he lost after kissing Sulameins arse.
    *****.
     
  12. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    there will be a third fight if the loser earns himself a mandatory spot. If Malignaggi's win hadn't been so flimsy and controversial, the IBF would not have thrown Ngoudjo straight into a title eliminator. And if fighters fought every 3 months like they should, then only 1 out of 3 fights would be a mandatory, which is just fine.
     
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  14. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    :lol:

    They probably don't even know where Wales or Cameroon are.
     
  15. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    What they did making Ngoudjo mando for Malignaggi right after he beat him was bull****,why did Ngoudjo get a eliminator?