Is the lazy jab an effective weapon?

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  1. 941Jeremy

    941Jeremy Active Member Full Member

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    There are a few fighters that seem to use this and it seems to be just as beneficial as a stiff jab. I think that it can be used as a range finder and also to set traps. Are there any other benefits to this punch?
     
  2. bballchump11

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    It is effective if the fighter knows what he's doing and in that case, I wouldn't call it lazy. Like Rigondeaux, you could call his lazy, but I'd describe it as something different
     
  3. zetsui

    zetsui Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Rigo is a weird ass fighter. He probes with his non-lead (left hand) and actually throws the straight pretty stiff. He throws a standing jab. No back foot stiffness to it.
     
  4. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    a lazy jab can be a great weapon of the other hand unleashes a KO shot. can be a jabtraction
     
  5. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Yeah, like BBall said, there's a difference between a lazy jab and a range-finder jab. A lazy jab is one that you throw crooked and slow or bring back dangerously low or constantly leave floating aimlessly after you throw it. A range-finder jab is purposefully outstretched with a conscious measurement of the distance and awareness of the risks.
     
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  7. SpeedKills

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    Not a lazy jab, like with Roberto Duran and Roy jones(along with Rigondeaux) it is usually used as a bait, but it also keeps your opponent busy.
    Rigondeaux sometimes messes it up though, he loses focus and just throws it out there consistently, im not sure if he realises this, and it's not a common occurence, but i've seen him do it twice and onboth occasions that i noticed this(vs Marroquin & Donaire) he got cracked with a lead left hook.
     
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  9. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Misunderstood the question, if you meant a jab just stretched out then yea, Bogotazo got it, a range-finder.
     
  10. DrX

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    wasnt for danny jacoobs against pirog



    it dont work for zab either
     
  11. Doc

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    Only as a range finder like Rigondeaux

    Trouts jab is good when effective, but Canelo rendered it innefective
     
  12. 941Jeremy

    941Jeremy Active Member Full Member

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    Yes the question was definitely in reference to Rigondeaux's jab as well as a couple others.
     
  13. 941Jeremy

    941Jeremy Active Member Full Member

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    And how do you differentiate the two? Is this based solely on the outcome of the punch? E.g. if he's clocked by right that comes over the jab then its considered lazy, but if he gets away with this then he did it on purpose and with great awareness?
     
  14. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It can hide a right hand, so yes.
     
  15. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    No, you can tell by the way they position their bodies. A lazy jab is like Bradley's. It's sharp but he brings it back low or throws it not quite at shoulder level (to protect his chin) and he pays for it.

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    Someone using it as a range-finder, like Mosley or Floyd or Ward or Rigondeaux, arch their back and bring their whole body behind their jab, sort of like a fencer with his foil.

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    I guess the in-between is when a fighter always brings it back low but usually "gets away with it" and then gets clocked. In that case they are used to calculating the risks, but may have also forgotten how to operate any other way and become vulnerable when the risk is greater.

    Ultimately, a lazy jab is a jab that wants to land but is thrown improperly and creates risks. A range-finder jab isn't fully committed until the fighter decides to throw it stiff, or throw something else behind it.