Is the next great Heavyweight destined to be overrated?

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  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I was thinking about this the other day.

    I feel like the next great heavyweight will constantly be compared to the old time greats, regardless of how true or not it is.

    I remember reading an article where the author was comparing Haye to Joe Louis. David Haye is an excellent talent, but it's silly to hear such a comparison.

    I feel like because David Haye has power, and actually looks athletic, he is being compared to legends. I mean I don't blame people for thinking like that. I mean Haye, other then the Klits, looks like the most athletic heavyweight. Everyone else is chubby and stumpy.

    Now imagine if someone came into the boxing game who WAS actually as good as Joe Louis. They would call him the greatest fighter ever in boxing, and they would claim there is no argument.

    I guess my point is, after this drought in the division, any good talented heavyweight is destined to be overrated.
     
  2. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    it's a really interesting point and the only change i would make is that the next good heavyweight is destined to be overrated.

    if we had someone of louis' talent, people would be shouting from the rafters and someone very good(with all due respect) like jerry quarry would still be heralded as an ATG
     
  3. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    IF he is great, I dont think so.


    Right now I belive the guy we have NOW, (Wlad) is pretty under rated.
     
  4. Ponysmallhorse

    Ponysmallhorse Small but proud Full Member

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    He will get his respect when he retired. Same **** happened to Holmes. After some time haters will forget but fans will remember. Same **** with Holmes, Liston and many others.
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I think fighters are best evaluated after some time has elapsed since their permanent retirement.
    As to the next great heavyweight? I wonder if he might be African?
     
  6. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    The best modern heavies that are active are more under rated than over rated. After they retire, they tend to be more highly thought of. At least that's how it worked for Lennox Lewis.

    I do not see a better heavyweight than the Klitschko's for the next TEN years. However, I do think the division will be very competitive with some solid match ups once the K-bros retire.
     
  7. Ponysmallhorse

    Ponysmallhorse Small but proud Full Member

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    Not Chinese for sure.
     
  8. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agree with this point
     
  9. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Luckily,

    Vitali in 50 years will not be viewed the same way he is today by klitlickers. People will look at his record and think "Who did this guy ever beat that was a very good fighter?"

    I will be there, old and senile, barking "Vitali is overrated. He is nowhere near a great fighter."
     
  10. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    :lol: I don't think anyone has any doubts about that.
     
  11. KTFO

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    Peeps still peeing their pants when they hear the name of Joe Louis, wtf? Joe Louis never had the agility of a David Haye. Stop nuthugging on Louis.
     
  12. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's funny because the division's been torn down to being extremely lousy in the eyes of many (I'd go so far as to say the current level of heavyweights is actually underrated given the lulls it typically has historically, but that's another post for another day).

    What I'm getting at is this: We have a guy fighting right now who makes every fight with a top contender look like a mismatch. If the next guy is also great, and wins his fights just as easily, won't people say the exact same thing they're knocking Wlad for when they punish him for fighting in a weak era? Is it getting to the point where, crazily enough, the next great heavyweight would be better served having closer fights instead of blowouts from a resume standpoint because it could give the appearance of a tougher era?
     
  13. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Yea I kinda feel sorry for them.

    No matter how good they might actually be, they will never get the legacy they are looking for. At least not in America. I hope people in the future will understand that it wasn't their fault that there was a lack of competition though!

    Who knows, maybe we will see something in the Haye fight that will indeed make us really respect the klits
     
  14. The Pup

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    Ill do you the honor of giving you attention you crave :good
     
  15. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i think the next great one will be underated. So underated, in fact, that we might not even be certain that he was the best in the world, must less an all time great. That is what has happened with the Klitchsko's. And if they both retire, who does the next guy beat to establish superiority. As soon as one fighter loses a belt, the organisations find a new guy to put in his place and the public seems to buy it (Look what happened to Chagaev and Haye for the perfect example). I think it will be near impossible to be great, unless of course the next fighter beats both Klitchskos, and soon.