Is the next great Heavyweight destined to be overrated?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    And ,if Haye were to blow them both out people willl be rushing to say they were allways crap, one fight can determine your legacy.
     
  2. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well people claim that the 80s was a weak era in Heavyweight boxing when in fact it had some pretty good fighters in there.

    Wlad's dominant performance to the eyes of many seem unimpressive because he seems to be holding back. If he were more aggressive or if he decided to pull the trigger more often and invoke fear and basically make a statement then fans would give him more credence than he has right now.

    Difference between Wlad and Lewis is that Lewis was similar in many ways but earned his respect after the fact because of the name fighters that he beat that were still around.

    His win's over Tyson (it was symbolic) and Holyfield solidified his standing in the last era. Wlad doesn't have these fighters around that will give him that. And what's more instead of going out there and blowing these guys out he is complacent with just winning rounds.

    Now he may end up having the Larry Holmes effect if he stays on top long enough. Time will afford him more praise but the next Heavyweight that comes along and excites the division is sure to get alot more praise than warranted.

    Just for good measure, if David Haye were to have Wlad's resume and tenure at HW he'd be given more credibility then Wlad is getting now.
     
  3. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Hey SuzieQ, I hope we are both around to debate this in 2069!

    You'll see. 50 years from now, Vitali will still own the all time KO% record, remain as one of two heavyweight champions never to be floored by a punch, have the best rounds won to rounds lost ration in the history of champions, and own a pretty impressive comeback!!! You just can;t stand him, but you can not deny his records.

    No heavyweight has kept his belt from his late 30's to 40 and beyond without losing it. This has never been done at heavyweight. Vitali might do this.
     
  4. Dempsey1238

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    But Tyson and Holyfiled were FAR crys than what they were in there prime.

    Lets say if Wlad beats Haye, I will rank that win over Lewis's victory over Tyson. The next year after looseing to Lewis, Tyson will fall to the likes of Danny Williams, yikes.
     
  5. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    This has to be the worst stat of all time.
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    He wil also go on record as never having beat a great fighter,and losing by stoppage to the only one he ever faced.
     
  7. janitor

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    It will depend on said great fighters style to some extent.

    If he is a dynamic attacking machine like a young Joe Louis or Mike Tyson then his star could rise verry verry high in the modern media age.

    If he has an unexciting safety first style but gets the job done then he is likley to get his due only in retrospect.

    A lot could also depend upon whether there are other name fighters to face off against him. Most "greats" have had these.
     
  8. Mendoza

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    That stat is an indication that Vitali had too much size, skills, movement and power to be out boxed. No man has won more than two consensus rounds vs. Vitali ever.