Is the stubby Clenelo going to weight drain Bivol?

Its well known that your hero is trying to hide this as it was proven with Jacobs and Kovalev.
Everyone also knows that the fight will start with 5-0 for Clenela.

 

Jacobs was trying to hide the fact that he colluded with the IBF to change their rules to allow him to bypass the standard IBF rehydration limit. Imagine if Canelo did what Jacobs did, and got the IBF to change their rules to allow him to be a weight bully. You'd be calling that "corruption". Jacobs got called out on his weight bullying.

DLH was behind the rehydration clauses, that's not something that Canelo insisted on or tried to hide. It's a stretch to even call a rehydration clause an advantage. There's another topic with several posters calling for more rehydration clauses to make it more fair and to prevent weight bullying. You can't have it both ways, either rehydration clauses are good for the sport or they're not. It's become a debatable and polarizing issues amongst fans.

As for the fight starting with 5-0 for "Clenela", don't be stupid. That's not how boxing works and you know it. Casuals say stuff like that.

 

^ standard shadow invention, fantasy and obfuscation. Cue slobbering noises as he licks his laminated Canelo badge.

 

LOL you know what I said is 100% accurate, you just don't like the truth, you'd rather live in your Canelo world of delusion. By the way, did you ever hear back from the IBF? Remember you said you emailed them to find out about Jacobs involvement in getting the rule changed.

 

Jacobs was never 'involved' in getting the rule changed.

That is entirely your fantasy. You have zero proof of your assertion.

The IBF changed their rule after Jacobs shafted GGG by simply ignoring the IBF weight restriction and putting the IBF champion GGG at a big disadvantage.

 

He better not or Putin might take it as an act of war and nuke the **** out of Mexico.

 

Canelo smokes Bivol, he doesn't need a "dehydration clause" or any other tricks to beat him.

Go watch Bivol vs Richards, Bivol looks so predictable, vulnerable and exhausted in last 4 rounds against a domestic level fighter Richards. That's why Reynoso jumped on the easy opportunity to capture the WBA light heavyweight title from Bivol.

Canelo will knock him without any problems. I expect the KO in round 10.

 

Of course

 

I think your right, I think Canelo may have Bivols number , lack of expirience up to canelo...hope its a fair bout ...not holding breath...won't mind one bit if i am prooved wrong...

 

Any fighter who wants a catch weight makes a mockery of the sport.

 

Floyd made a mockery of the sport demanding a catchweight against Canelo for a 154-lb unification. Floyd had already fought at the full 154 twice before, beating Cotto the year before. By far the most unjustifiable catchweight ever.

Pacquiao made a mockery of the sport demanding a catchweight against Cotto for a 147-lb title. He also did a catchweight again against Margacheato, this time a title fight at 154-lb. In addition, there were rumors of there being a catchweight against Mosley, but apparently there ended up not being one.

https://www.ringtv.com/121167-mosley-willing-to-meet-pacquiao-at-catch-weight/

Pacquiao was heavily critizied for all his catchweight and attempts to drain bigger fighters.

Manny Pacquiao: The Catchweight King?

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/256160-manny-pacquiao-the-catchweight-king

Manny Pacquiao has taken a lot of heat lately from fans and members of the media by fighting Cotto for the title at a catchweight. He has been bestowed the title of "Catchweight King" or "Catchweight B$#%#." But how much of these criticisms does he deserve?


Is Pacquiao’s Success The Past Four Years From His Catchweight Fights?

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2012/0...-past-four-years-from-his-catchweight-fights/

In looking at how poor Manny Pacquiao has looked in his last several fights that haven’t involved catchweights, it has me wondering whether Pacquiao’s success in the last four years has been due to him fighting guys at catchweights? Let’s look at Pacquiao’s most important wins in the last four years and see whether this could be true:

Antonio Margarito
Miguel Cotto
Juan Manuel Marquez


Time for Pacquiao to stop cheating history by inventing weight classes

https://www.si.com/boxing/2010/07/26/margarito-pacquiao

Another event, another catch ... weight, that is.

Rather than a matchup to determine who's the best active fighter (and welterweight) in the world, we get a repeat of what we were already asked to pay for last year: Team Pacquiao inventing another weight class for the sake of chasing history.

From the moment promoter Bob Arum revealed in his after-hours conference call more than a week ago that the options for Pacquiao's next opponent were limited to two of his own fighters, it was clear that the final choice would come down to the one more willing to bend over and take it however the Vegas-based promotional company wanted to give it to them.

The comment was peculiar considering that Pacquiao -- for all of his charm, humility and in-ring greatness -- has proven in recent years to be a bear to deal with at the negotiating table. Deals to face Cotto, Ricky Hatton and Oscar De La Hoya all dragged on until the last possible minute, with all three fights in limbo at one point or another before being finalized.

He doesn't want to pursue it the old-fashioned way -- by earning it -- or even by pursuing one of its many other beltholders, but instead by cherry-picking his way towards a vacant title ... in a fight where the participants could potentially weigh no heavier than four pounds below the actual divisional limit.

These articles are important reminders that Pacquiao with his promoter Arum was notorious for trying to weight drain his opponents, particularly since his catchweights were in title fights when he was the challenger and the champion had to agree to a catchweight in order to fight him. Despite this, his fans brag about him winning titles in 8 divisions, despite two of those being won at catchweights.

Yet for some reason, people pretend like Pacquiao didn't do catchweights then bring up the fact that Canelo was known for having catchweights. There's two important concepts here that seem to be lost on the vast majority of posters here. First, there's a big difference between having catchweights in non-title fights vs title fights. Second, there's a big difference between a fighter having catchweights and a fighter demanding catchweights, particularly in title fights.

Pacquiao and his promoter clearly demanded catchweights in several title fights, in which the opponent had to drain himself from his normal weight, and they were rumored to be pushing for it other times (Mosley) even if it ended up not happening. Unlike Pacquiao, Canelo and his promoter never demanded catchweights when challenging for a title in a new weight class. In several cases (Mayweather, Cotto, & Khan), Canelo was required to agree to a catchweight in order to make fights happen.

People like to bring up the rehydration clauses against Kovalev, Fielding, and Jacobs. Rehydration clauses are not the same thing as a catchweight, some people actually want to see more rehydration clauses as a way to prevent weight bullying, so you can't put those in the same category as what Pacquiao and Arum did.

 

Always lame are the rehydration clauses...

...yet Bivol has claimed for years that he could apparently easily make 168 for a money fight. So I guess its just a good thing Canelo didnt hold him to that.

 

He could have, but instead he agreed to fight Bivol at the full 175. Canelo should be applauded for that, and for cleaning out 168 without catchweights or rehydration clauses. He's the only fighter I've ever seen who gets criticized for draining himself to catchweights putting himself at a disadvantage to make fights vs weight bullying divas (Floyd, Cotto, Khan) or for having rehydration clauses when moving up to a new weight class against much bigger fighters, something that many fans want to see more of. Now I agree with you that rehydration clauses are lame, but rehydration clauses as lame as they are, are not anywhere near as bad as the catchweight demands for title fights Floyd, Pac and Cotto did.

 

Catchweights have been around for quite a while now and they're used to level the playing field(ostensibly). Does anyone remember the Gatti/Gamache debacle?

People only whine about it when a fighter they don't like uses it in a contract.

 

I get that you have a problem, cause of your fanboy bias, but i couldn't care less about that. I already ignored all the blind biased fanboys in this forum, you probably going to end up in there.

Where the ***** i was okay with a catchweights for whoever fighter there is ? I cannot speak for anyone else, but i never backed up anyone.

Catchweight is a one big bu...... One of the reasons i start liking more and more MMA and UFC specifically. No b.c., and big matches and top fighters are facing each other on regular basis. No b.c. A side, B side, C side and all that craps.

Anyway let me get back on the topic.
If you want someone title at a X given weight, you go and fight under that rules. This is how you show you are the better man. Not putting crazy demands, clauses and so.
And btw if there was nothing wrong with the so call catchweights, why your hero always try to hide it ????

Just imagine this pathetic scenario. Canelo is about to fight a 200 pounds guy in a street fight, but he stopped in the meanwhile and tell him, listen you are 200 pounds, we got to meet in a catchweight. You must lose 30 pounds at least, otherwise we won't fight. It's sound as ridiculous as it is !