is the uk the best boxing nation p4p?

I'd say they're top 5. 90s was their golden era. As of today only Froch and Khan are seen as elite. At the moment
1.USA
2.Mexico
3. Philipines
4. UK
5. Cuba

The first 4 nations have at least 2p4p fighters or one in the top 5.

 

Really?, you're using general population as an argument still?, and you don't see the fallacy in that?

I'm just racking my brain at the stupidity of it all...

 

Heavy- Kimbo, Thompson, Chambers, Aerrola

Cruiser- Cunningham

LightHeavy- Dawson, Hopkins, Tavoris Cloud

SMW- Ward, Anthony Dirrell, Andre Ward, Johnson

MW- :rasta

LMW- Bundrage, Williams, Kirkland

WW- Mayweather, Mike Jones, Berto, Ortiz, Mosley, Alexander

LWW- Bradley, Peterson, Judah, Danny Garcia, Alvardo

:hey I think that's enough for now

 

Considering Cleverly already has a belt, he is not a prospect anymore. He is a champion who has yet to face the very top guys in his division (which I'm sure he will do).

Brook, he is a prospect. Throw him in with the top 2 at the minute, he gets dominated. That's nothing against him, but again, he has yet to step up on to that world level...and is not even close to being considered P4P.

Frampton, again a prospect I like the look of. But widely regarded (these being the important words) as among the best prospects in the division? Not sure about that at the minute. I'm sure his name will be mentioned a lot more in a year or two, but I wouldn't say he is widely regarded.

Them fighting to be in the British P4P rankings is basically irrelevant to the actual topic you started. All mentioned did well, but honestly, out of those...name the ones who you think can reach the level say a Khan or a Froch is at now?

Contenders? Not really. Prospects, I agree.

Neither have made a case for top 10 P4P. You can argue Froch has, you can put up even more of an argument if he beats Ward.

Khan's last 6 bouts -

Kotelnik - In hindsight, a very good win.
Salita - Good-ish win.
Malignaggi - Good win.
Maidana - Very good win considering he was supposed to be avoiding big punchers.
McCloskey - Good win, not really too impressive in this bout.
Judah - Good win, Judah was not peak, prime, etc...but it was a good test, Khan impressed.

Now, if Bradley would have been amongst the last 6 wins, I would definitely say he had a very good argument to be top 10 P4P.

We do have some very good champions, and some what seem to be very good prospects. But I don't see many you listed hanging around at World level for too long.

 

Dude, I'm considering re-locating to the lounge, it gets harder in here every day :huh

You can argue population, I'll counter that by saying that Boxing is the premier sport in P.R, where as here it's hardly on the radar.

 

I'd switch the UK with the Phillipines. The US always benefits from claiming the Mexican Americans.

 

I think he has made the right move going to 135lbs, he can beat some guys, and lose to some guys IMO. It all depends who he fights. The top 3 guys are out of that division I think. Marquez, Rios and Guerrero. Could be a good time for Burns to step up and try get some big names. .

 

So what? Boxing isn't the most popular sport in the UK, and? It doesn't change the fact Puerto Rico is far better p4p. We're talking about a nation's boxing prowess, not the reasons for how strong or weak it is. Boxing in PR is just like rugby in New Zealand. It's its most popular sport and it explains why they are so good relative to their population. That's irrelevant to this discussion though.

 

Explain the concept of a how good a boxing nation is P4P then, if population plays no part in it.

 

Your population argument falls into that category. Just because there is a greater population doesn't mean there will be a greater amount of boxers. A small island like Puerto Rico focuses a lot more on Boxing than anything else. Bigger countries focus on other sports as well as boxing.

Why am I arguing this point anyway. Puerto Rico isn't even a country.

 

By how many champions and top contenders a nation has.

 

We're not a country but we are a nation.

:hat

 

What a shocker that a Mexican holds that view.

Even if that was the criteria you worked off, it's just as ludicrous to suggest the UK is the best.

Why even include the word P4P then. It would simply be, who is the best boxing nation.

 

Yeah I'm Mexican so what? Are you another one of the many Mexican haters around here?

I didn't say the UK was the best, but they are in the top 3.

 

They also represent the EU. Which like the UK is another nonsense, extreme multicultural term.