Is their any correlations between asthetics and perfomance?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by babyhug, Mar 8, 2012.


  1. babyhug

    babyhug New Member Full Member

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    This might sound like a stupid question but stay with me. You rarely see you successfull out of shape boxers and the ones who perform better always have a nice body (no homo). I know boxing is not bodybuilding and looks don't matter but can we not all agree that theres a certain "boxers physique".
    So main question is "is there any realtions between physique and perfomance"

    I've also noticed that theres a dozen threads about weights and stuff. So i was thinking wouldn't it be a good idea for posters to post there thoughts and certain workouts to "get the body" can include weights, bodyweight excercises etc. And also useless excercises which are only for asthetics and do not help whats so ever with boxing (bicep curls maybe?)
    Hope this thread catches on:thumbsup
     
  2. Iceveins

    Iceveins Puglistic Linguistics Full Member

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    "Aesthetics" to me means a modeleseque body, symmetrical, 6 pack abs, ripped to shreds and muscular to match. But genetics also play a big role on that and it does not signify one's conditioning or ability. Some people can train 6 days a week for 2 hours a day and be able to box 100 rounds but only have an average physique, while others can do half as much or none at all and look better with their shirt off.

    So all in all...body aesthetics should be taken with a gran of salt. They may signify one's conditioning or it may not signify anything at all.
     
  3. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, but I do think at the lighter weights in general boxing favors a lanky lean quick handed fellow who has range and leverage in a way that wrestling doesn't.

    Thomas Hearns is very very hard to imagine beating at welter because of those attributes; you have to be very special to have a chance.

    Fitness for some shows with their bodyfat, so you can tell when they are "in shape" for them, but watching a guy like Tito Trinidad's career will tell you real quickly aesthetics aren't everything, or even anything, most of the time. Joppy did not belong in the ring with him, but I would sure choose Joppy's build in a second over Tito's from just aesthetics.

    Jones had the best of both.
     
  4. Steenalized

    Steenalized Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What Iceveins said, really. Aesthetics are part genetics, part working on the glamour muscles, and part actual condition. I know I've sparred with guys who basically look fat but have a hell of a motor and don't get tired in there, and I've sparred with guys who have really good physiques but would gas hard after the first round.

    In general I'd say the guy who looks like he's in phenomenal shape is going to outperform the schlub, but aesthetics doesn't perfectly correlate with performance.
     
  5. pichuchu

    pichuchu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It helps il agree but it isnt everything. And boxers body= what exactly??
     
  6. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I used to regularly whoop on some guys who were in great shape. I'm nothing special to look at (Joe Calzaghe body) but that doesn't mean I won't wear you down and hurt you.


    My favorite part was after getting their ass handed to them by me, these guys would try to give me nutrition and training advice. They'd be doing floorwork after sparing 'working on their core' while I was burning out on the bags.

    Sport specific training always wins yo.
     
  7. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nope, all you can tell is if they're inclined to build muscle more easily or what sort of training they've been focusing on. Performance is complex and depends on many factors, most of all skill.
    A more muscular fighter may be genetically inclined to be a faster/stronger sort of athlete but it may also just be a guy who spends a lot of time in the weight room while watching his nutrition carefully. If you have a lean muscular guy who doesn't train/just ****s around with training there's a chance that he might be a natural athlete. It takes a lot more than being a natural athlete to perform and do well at a sport like boxing.
    In conclusion it means **** all, the majority of boxers have low bodyfat so they're going to look muscular anyway.
     
  8. Leonius

    Leonius Member Full Member

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    If by physique you mean toned that is a byproduct of the need to diet to make weight at most weight classes, nothing more, it only effects performance because it allows the boxer to fight smaller opponents doesn't make them a better boxer than they would be with a few extra pounds.

    Serious boxers don't train for the body they train to box, we can tell you how to train to box but which part of of my training you would do to get "the body" and which you could cut out I could not tell you, if you just want to have the body you would be better of just doing what bodybuilders do once you lose enough weight you will be toned, if your a girl then google figure competition and go from there.
     
  9. pichuchu

    pichuchu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I half agree with this statement. I mean yeah serious BOXERS should concentrate on BOXING. You don't need to look good to be a great boxer but most if not all the excercises used in boxing wheather it be conditioning or skills (pads, heavy bag) helps you get that body. An example is chin ups, sit ups and press ups which im sure 90% of boxers do in their training.
     
  10. Leonius

    Leonius Member Full Member

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    The exercises don't get you that body the diet to make weight gets that body, see George Foreman and James Toney for examples of two great boxers who train boxing but do not have the trim toned physique.

    If I was to train solely for looks I would not do a single body weight exercise nor any boxing training I would train completely different from how I train for boxing even my weight lifting sessions would use completely different exercises number of sets, number of reps length of rest period and number of times per week. This is for the simple reason that there are better more efficient ways to train for looks when functional strength is not a concern.

    The only thing that would remain the same would be the need to keep a low body fat percentage through a suitable nutritional plan, even that would in effect be different due to the different requirements of a very different training schedule.
     
  11. Juxhin

    Juxhin Guest

    Yea this, i mean Boxing got me pretty ripped and only got a very little ammount of fat which i feel comfortable with, but then on the other hand im 16 right now so my body burns like a furnace