Is There A Case That Juan Manuel Marquez Is In Truth Undefeated?

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  1. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I was talking about a round by round.:nut
     
  2. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Round 1: Marquez 10-9
    Round 2: Marquez 10-9
    Round 3: John 10-9
    Round 4: John 10-9
    Round 5: Marquez 10-9
    Round 6: Marquez 10-9
    Round 7: Marquez 10-9
    Round 8: Marquez 10-9
    Round 9: Marquez 10-9
    Round 10: Marquez 9-9
    Round 11: John 10-8
    Round 12: Marquez 10-9

    (close rounds, wide margin, clear win for Marquez even if you edge John here and there, IMHO.)
     
  3. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Awesome,that's what I mean.Here is mine:
    Round 1-JMM 10-9
    Round 2-JMM 10-9
    Round 3-John 10-9
    Round 4-John 10-9
    Round 5-JMM 10-9
    Round 6-John 10-9
    Round 7-JMM 10-9
    Round 8-JMM 10-9
    Round 9-JMM 10-9
    Round 10-JMM 9-9
    Round 11-John 10-8
    Round 12-JMM 10-9
    Total:114-112 JMM,close but clear.Without the point deductions(which were borderline) you could say he boxed John's ears off.The diference between yours and mine is the 6th which was a close round.
     
  4. PirateGorilla

    PirateGorilla Active Member Full Member

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    Any scorecards on the MAB fight? I thought the fight was close, the no KD and 1 point deduction was a 3 point swing.
     
  5. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Looks excellent to my eye, thunder. Almost identical.
     
  6. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Round 1: Marquez 10-9
    Round 2: Marquez 10-9
    Round 3: John 10-9
    Round 4: John 10-9
    Round 5: Marquez 10-9
    Round 6: John 10-9
    Round 7: John 10-9
    Round 8: Marquez 10-9
    Round 9: Marquez 10-9
    Round 10: Marquez 9-9
    Round 11: John 10-8
    Round 12: Marquez 10-9

    those in bold are extremely close rounds...i remembered scoring it a draw but JMM shouldn't be deducted a point in round 11
     
  7. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Barrera vs Marquez scorecard:
    Round 1-JMM 10-9
    Round 2-Barrera 10-9
    Round 3-JMM 10-9
    Round 4-JMM 10-9
    Round 5-JMM 10-9
    Round 6-Barrera 10-9
    Round 7-JMM 10-8
    Round 8-Barrera 10-9
    Round 9-JMM 10-9
    Round 10-JMM 10-9
    Round 11-JMM 10-9
    Round 12-Barrera 10-9
    Total:116-111 JMM
    Here Nady ****ed Barrera's fight up with that BS round 7.Altough the rounds were close and very close without the Nady slipping I think Barrera could have won but as it is Marquez won it for me.
     
  8. Soriano

    Soriano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. Because he hasn't beaten Pac yet. In addition, John beat him.
     
  9. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    I'll give you the 6th, alright, but I can't remember having to mentally crush to give Marquez the 7th. Fair play though, asero.
     
  10. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    because of ****ing rd 7, MAB was forced to divert of his gameplan because he knows he his way behind on points...there should have been a rematch.. i do not know why the rematched didn't happened
     
  11. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :rofl:nut
     
  12. P4PNo.1

    P4PNo.1 Active Member Full Member

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    For me he lost the John fight, won against Pacquiao and I haven't seen the Norwood fight.
     
  13. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's a better fighter than either John or Norwood but he did lose to them. Both were debateable but not travesties other than that marquez could have done better.
     
  14. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    It's the same way in people come up with that 'my friend has a problem' line. Face it, you are repulsed by ***** you raging homo. And my names not even Tommy, so you've failed epicly on that front. Keep up with the insults, I'm laughing my ****ing arse off at you getting so worked up. And the fact it all started because I said JMM lost to Norwood. :lol:
     
  15. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    I'll disagree on John, that was a farce. Not only did Marquez demonstrate his superiority overall and in scoring, he fundamentally outworked John. On top of that the deductions were laughable, as well as all the ridiculous warnings Marquez received leading up to that. The ref was a **** actor.