IS there a minimum weight for a weight division?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Iron Fist Joe, Oct 1, 2011.


  1. Seeing all the influx of posts regarding catch weights for Floyd to fight for the MW title etc.

    Where is the rule saying that you have to weigh a minimum weight to fight for the title?

    I've looked on Wikipedia, BoxRec, and throughout history - everything suggests that in theory, any fighter who weighs at or below 160 can fight for the middleweight title.

    So why would we need a catchweight of 155 to fight for the MW title - surely you can fight at 154 - and if Sergio wants to put his MW title on the line, he can do - the fight would qualify as it's at or below the 160lb limit.

    I'm not saying that's what he should do, but there's no need for any catch weight to make it a MW title fight.
     
  2. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    NO

    (real simple too many examples if u need em)


    *note - (if an ABC org makes some new rule it means nothign as lineal titles are most important)
     
  3. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here's an

    older post I did dispelling catchweights completley:
     
  4. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As I always said, fights were agreed close to a weight limit but are NOT catch weight fights

    this has always been normal in boxing


    Corrales Clottey was fought at 149 it was a WELTERWEIGHT FIGHT

    R Jones v Virgil both over 175 in a LT HW FITE

    SSR v Lamotta 149 v161 MIDDLEWEIGHT FIGHT

    tons more examples that simply are not labeled as catchweight this has always been entirley normal in pro boxing

    and then on the floyd undecard his very own fighter fought a tough fight at LIGHT WELTERWEIGHT

    both hit the scales over 140

    what u gotta say ?

    normal process in boxing since forever
     
  5. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Vivian Harris defended his wba title 140lbs- and hit the scales at 134lbs
     
  6. BoxFan53

    BoxFan53 Member Full Member

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    If the fight is for the Middleweight title, it seems silly to require a catchweight lower than 160lbs. Just make the fight at the lower weight without the title at stake or fight for the Jr. Middle/Super Welter title.
     
  7. box247

    box247 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You want to come in at the highest you can to avoid giving your opponent an advantage. Depends on the fighter. I the commission feel a fighter is well below weight compared to an opponent. They can cancel the fight at the risk the fighter may get seriously hurt. Probably won't happen. eg PAC turned up below at welterweight for the margo fight which was at junior middleweight.
     
  8. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    If you feel like researching the rules, and you learn that my opinion is wrong, let me know. I do not think there is a strict rule about minimum weight for a given division. However, the sanctioning bodies generally reserve the right not to sanction certain fights. Using MW as our example, the orgs will usually refuse to sanction a title fight if one combatant weighs in at or below 154 pounds.
     
  9. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The catchweight is not for them to not go below BUT for them to not go above that weight (155 in this case). That would allow them to fight for the MW title but none of them could go above 155 as it would normally be.... up to 160lbs.
     
  10. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let me make this clear

    THERE IS NO MINIMUM WEIGHT EVER

    You can weigh 5 lbs if be and you can also wear a set of lead pants on the scales as well to up numbers anyway !!!!

    You must NOT EXCEED a limit !!

    It's that simple
     
  11. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    You're a bit confused. It's normal for two fighters in the same division to come in overweight. However, if you have a fight between two MWs and both fighters ar overweight, then it is not a MW fight. In reality though, it doesn't really matter unless a title is on the line. Jones was the WBC champ when he fought Hill, but that fight was a non title fight due to both fighters coming in over the limit. It was not a LHW fight.
     
  12. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    if its a non title fight, it really doesn't matter what the guys weigh in at as long as the fight happens. Particularly when the guys are younger and fighting guys who are pretty much fighting at their walking around weight. When its for a title that is when the weight matters, and there is no real floor for a weight, but if their is a ceiling for the other weight class then that acts as the artificial floor.
     
  13. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is a maximum allowed weight difference of 7 lb for middleweight. Technically they both can come in below middleweight but this is just silly because the winner will have to eventually defend against real middleweight mandatory.