Is there a more disappointing Olympic gold medalist class than Rio? (in graduating to professional)

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    2016 men's gold medalists, from light fly through super heavy:
    • Hasanboy Dusmatov (UZB) - now 6-0 in the pros; waited three years to debut, hasn't fought since 2023.

    • Shakhobidin Zoirov (UZB) - now 5-0 in the pros; waited three years to debut, fought thrice in 2019 and zero times in 2020 or 2021, twice in 2022 and zero times since.

    • Robeisy Ramírez (CUB) - now 14-3-1 in the pros.

    • Robson Conceição (BRA) - now 19-3-1 in the pros.

    • Fazliddin Gaibnazarov (UZB) - now 11-2 in the pros.

    • Arlen López (CUB) - now 3-0 in the pros; waited six years to debut in 2022; didn't fight in 2023, once in 2024.

    • Julio César La Cruz (CUB)- now 3-0 in the pros; waited six years to debut in 2022; didn't fight in 2023, once in 2024.

    • Evgeny Tishchenko (RUS) - now 12-1-0-1 in the pros.

    • Tony Yoka (FRA) - now 13-3 in the pros.

    Woof. You also have mixed results and underwhelming activity from many of that year's silver and bronze medalists (Ivan Dychko, Murodjon Akhmadaliev, Joshua Buatsi, Bektemir Melikuziev, Misael Rodríguez, Shakhram Giyasov, Sofiane Oumiha, Daniyar Yeleussinov, Mathieu Bauderlique, Vladimir Nikitin, Nico Hernández, Artem Harutyunyan, Souleymane Cissokho, and Joe Joyce). The only ones to successfully transition and perform at a high level consistently have been bantamweight silver medalist Shakur Stevenson and super heavyweight bronze medalist Filip Hrgović.

    At least in the case of the Uzbeks, they have the mitigating excuse of their national program focusing their efforts almost entirely on doing well in global amateur tourneys. For the most part they seem to consider the pros a mere afterthought.
     
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  2. IntentionalButt

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    Flat performances abound from this bunch, in both their initial upset (and subsequent) losses as well as many of their wins.
     
  3. Izakaya

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    Just a quick glance I see multiple belt winners including unified, which doesn't seem that bad if you ask me although I do admit I don't really follow the amateurs. Robeisy Ramirez and Robson Conceição both won a world belt as a pro. Murodjon Akhmadaliev became a unified titlist. Joe Joybe won interim world title. Best of all Shakur is a three division world titlist and counting.

    it isn't like any of them are screaming HoF or anything (except maybe Shakur when everything is done with his career), but is it really that bad compared to other classes? It certainly doesn't get close to 2012 quality for sure but 2008 doesn't seem THAT great with the exception of Loma who's more of a class of 2012 IMO?
     
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    I think it's almost a positive in general to get a silver or bronze instead of a gold for the pro game. Gives them more fire, more incentive to reach the next level as a pro. In reality the skill level is at the highest level regardless of medal colour.
     
  5. Ice8Cold

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    2016 was super disappointing - may be the worst class in fact.

    1980 in Russia was also poor as many countries including America boycotted due to Russia's invasion of Afghanistan.
     
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  6. Dubblechin

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    Seven years on and none of the gold medalists are factors, let alone stars.
     
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    1980 did manage to produce Slobadan Kacar and Patrizio Oliva, though.
     
  8. IntentionalButt

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    Shakur was a silver medalist (and I did mention him and Hrgović as exceptions to the overall class' lackluster efforts in the OP). My thread is about how none of the gold winners have lived up to hype. :thumbsup:

    Ramírez did obtain a belt, but hot potatoed it in his second defense and has been stopped since. 3 losses in your first seventeen bouts isn't a great look for a gold medalist. Conceição also couldn't hang onto his title, dropping it back to Foster immediately with no successful defenses. Also has 3 pro losses already, not that deep into his career.

    As for the other non-golds you mentioned: Akhmadaliev did manage three defenses before being upset by Tapales, but his ring schedule since has been paltry. Joyce coming out of the Rio games was projected to do a LOT better than merely an interim championship, and I think most people back then would be surprised to learn he's 16-4 and on the verge of retirement now.
     
  9. IntentionalButt

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    Biggest joke-a of all is Yoka. He didn't even deserve the gold in Rio (robbed Joyce, in fact) - and I was saying long before his recent three loss skid that he was overrated garbage and bound to go tits-up in the pros. :deal:
     
  10. Vantage_West

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    yeah...mate, that is still unreal. fighting at a bingo hall in swindon last year is even madder. what i hear is that french media is horrific. his marriage with Estelle Mossely was scandlised etc.
    either way, he looked one of the worst fighters to hold a gold but you give him the rub of the green. don't know about now.


    sidenote: does anyone feel that Covid has devastated the youth. the amount of fighters careers that were derailed over the 2020/22 era is unreal.
     
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    Sidenote2 : is this not the first olympics where we started to doubt the AIBA's competance? literally after 'The Conlan Spin' moment everyone was checking the scorecards and it was clear that east of istanbul fighters were getting nods.
    then the WSB started falling apart and then they tore their mask off to become a cancerous proffesional boxing promotion in disguise.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concerns_and_controversies_at_the_2016_Summer_Olympics
     
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    https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/850290

    Soufiane Oumiha getting all the way to the final back then was also a shocker. and now stuck in russia fighting on AIBA cards



    which also spins the narrative...maybe the best fighters of that year were not the best fighters but the most consistant selective amatuers since the 'pro's can return to the oympics'. and since going pro were already not good just workman enough to turn up and compete in as many tourneyments as possible.
     
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