Is there a more natural boxer today than David Benavidez?

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  1. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    You were schooled regarding this last week little man. Refer to that thread for all of the errors and falsehoods you espoused. It will be a good learning experience for ya.
     
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  2. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    You are so hypocritical. Beterbiev is cutting to get to 175 that's a fact. All you do is run your mouth and you can't even be honest with yourself because you worship these guys like a child would
     
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  3. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Refer to the thread in which you were schooled in on this matter. The matter was settled and you were proven wrong. It's ok little man.
     
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  4. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Lol all you proved is he's naturally a cruiserweight rather than a heavyweight. He's fighting at 175 and your claiming he's not cutting weight.
    This is beyond pathetic
     
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  5. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    It's is indeed pathetic that you can't admit to being wrong especially when you proved how little you know about boxing by not knowing the difference between HW and SHW in the amateurs. :facepalm:
     
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  6. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    How am I wrong if beterbiev was a heavyweight in the amateurs but is fighting as a light heavyweight in his 30s. You seriously have such a hard on for this guy you can't face the simple math of what cutting weight actually means
     
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  7. UnleashtheFURY

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    This was already explained to you in the thread. Beterbiev fought the bulk of his amateur career as a LHW in the amateurs and towards the end moved up to HW(CW since you didn't seem to know this until it was spelled out for you) and even then he competed on the lower end of weight spectrum there. Beterbiev for all intents and purposes is a LHW. He has fought there for the overwhelming majority of his amateur and the entirety of his pro career. He's a LHW. He also has no problems making the weight unlike the young 23 year old Benavidez at SMW.
     
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  8. Serge

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    Beterbiev is a LHW who comes in about 185-187 and rehydrating 10-12lbs after weigh ins is pretty standard and I've already posted a whole bunch of LHW's fight night weights who weigh more than him in the ring and many of them were former SMWs who'd moved up.

    However, rehydrating almost 25lbs as Benavidez did the other day isn't just a lot it's a bloody obscene amount

    Benavidez is a SMW who after missing weight for his last fight and stepping on the scales at 170.8, so still well under the 175 LHW limit, came in at 195lbs which AFAIW is a joint record for the most amount of weight ever rehydrated for a LHW

    When Beterbiev campaigned at HW in the amateurs towards the end of his amateur career he weighed between 14-16lbs under the HW limit and he hasn't even weighed in as high as 190lbs amateur or pro, let alone 195lbs and he's made weight the first time of asking for every single one of his fights.

    Re. him campaigning up at HW in the amateurs towards the end of his career. It might have had something to do with the Russian National team selectors having a bit of a dilemma on their hands at the time regarding the selection process because not only did they arguably have the two best LHWs in the world in their squad in Beterbiev and Egor Mekhonstev, but they were also two of the best guys in the Russian national squad and two of the best amateurs in the world full stop and Mekhonstev, like Beterbiev, was also a natural LHW and I think the selectors wanted to find a place for both of them and maybe even the fighters themselves were part of that decision making process too.

    I might be remembering that wrong but I definitely recall reading something on here a number of years ago about the Russian national team selectors having a dilemma on their hands regarding who to select for those weight classes or if not it was actually their idea for Beterbiev to campaign up at HW not his. We know he could make the weight for LHW because LHW in the amateurs is 178 not 175.

    Even when he was fighting in non title fights at the start of his career when he didn't have to make weight the maximum he weighed in at the day before was 184¾lbs

     
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