Is there a point where height is no longer an advantage in the HW division?

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  1. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Height is always an advantage.
     
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  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Height is only advantageous if you can utilise it. This means one having a decent jab and two having the movement and footwork to maintain your reach advantage. Doesn't matter how tall you are if you can't do these two things.
     
  3. OvidsExile

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    Probably around ten feet, because your heart won't be able to pump enough blood to your brain and the knee joints would collapse under the pressure.
     
  4. Cafe

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    I don't think so, I mean even if you say something like 7 foot, if you look at examples of boxers at this height, most of them have been pretty mediocre boxers, so you'd think that is the point at which the height advantage is nullified by the loss of coordination, speed et cetera.

    But at the same time, this is probably what people were thinking in the past about 6'8, 6'6 etc. We just haven't had any really athletic 7 foot boxers but at some point one will probably come along and he'll dominate.
     
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  5. Glass City Cobra

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    Depends on the person.

    I mean even in other sports, it was rare to see explosive, fit, coordinated athletes with good reflexes who were over 6'4 and over 230 lbs. Guys that size were usually lumbering oafs relying on sheer strength rather than skill, fat slobs with no stamina, or tall lanky bean poles who could be easily overpowered.

    That started to change around the 80's and especially the 90's until now. Dont know the reason why, there are countless theories, but for whatever reason people somehow found a way to get 6'6, 6'7+ etc guys to be more explosive. Proper diets, nutrition, weights, and of course PEDs happened.

    Then guys like Lebron James and Kevin Durant showed up in basketball. There had occasionally been men close to their size in the past who couls march them in explosiveness and speed, but they were very rare. And it was pretty much impossible to find men that height who were ALSO 240+ pound freaks who somehow maintained functional strength and athleticism and werent just walls of muscle or fat. Guys that size usually played center in basketball or lineman in football. They focused on strength and defensive type positions rather than being the star running back or point guard. Lebron and guys like him changed all that with their ridiculous physical gifts. Similarly, boxers of this size were usually either cavemen brawlers or hid behind a pawing jab with predictable, basic strategy. Nowadays you have huge men who can actually outbox or throw sophisticated combinations at mid range.

    As far as boxing goes, it sucks because a lot of the durant, lebron, wilt chamberlain type genetic freaks will likely continue to go to the nfl, nba, weight lifting, wwe, movies, etc where they can make waaaay more money for far less pain. Its a cliche at this point, but it doesnt make it any less true. We were honestly lucky to get joshua, wilder, fury, etc. It may seem like the norm but they could have easily gone elsewhere. Heck, joshua ran track and both him and wilder were interested in football but fate led them elsewhere.
     
  6. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it matters. If the weight and reach go up with the height, it stays an advantage.
     
  7. guncho

    guncho next champion! Full Member

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    there is povetkin and was chagaev but only realy lost to wlad
     
  8. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    Is there a point where height is no longer an advantage in the HW division?

    NO.

    Height is only one attribute that makes a boxer who they are as a fighter.

    You could ask the same question regarding reach, power, hand speed, foot speed, weight, chin, health, injury proneness…..the attributes go on…

    Example: 5 foot 11 inches Mike Tyson VS 10 foot Mike Tyson. Both versions have the exact same attributes bar the height. I’d be confident the 5’11 Tyson would snap his pencil necked bean stalk self in half.
     
  9. jm2729v

    jm2729v Active Member Full Member

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    Taller fighters have as many weaknesses as shorter fighters. Shorter fighters with the wrong gameplan always get destroyed by a taller fighter but when they get it right it's amazing and strange to watch.
     
  10. cippi

    cippi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    some of these guys get dwarfed. and its just to much to over come.