Is there a UK boxer fighting right now that can become an ATG?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Mortal, Oct 16, 2016.


  1. Mortal

    Mortal Member Full Member

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    Not really true.

    Harry Greb, Benny Leonard, Willie Pep, Gene Tunney, Barny Ross, Jimmy McLarnin, Bob Fitzsimmons, Jimmy Wilde are all considered top end ATG's. Greb, Leonard and Pep are stick on top ten. Some historians think Greb is the GOAT.
     
  2. Mortal

    Mortal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, he gave big Lennox hell with his jab if I remember right.
     
  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ignorant post.
    Calzaghe was an ATG

    As for today several have a chance to become ATGs. I think Haye, Joshua and Fury all stand a chance
     
  4. lawslaw

    lawslaw Active Member Full Member

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    Love to know how you think Fury can become an ATG when his license is suspended and has multiple hearings coming up over his steroid use and cocaine abuse from which he is going to get a long ban.....

    Doesn't sound like he is likely to be very 'great' now does it.
     
  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Read what I wrote instead of jumping. I have wrote stand a chance and Fury if his career is not over stands a very good chance. He beat the champ who had made several defences and is considered an ATG. If Fury can go on to beat other top HWs like Wilder and Joshua if Joshua carries on winning, why do you think Fury couldnt be considered? Run along now
     
  6. lawslaw

    lawslaw Active Member Full Member

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    Oh I read what you wrote, just your post was full of sh!t, as normal.

    Fury will always be a disgraced drug cheat, like Gatlin and Armstrong.
    It is irrelevant whatever he may achieve in the future as it will always be tarnished. So no he doesn't stand a chance if he comes back of ever being an ATG.

    Jog on now fvkwit.
     
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  7. Mortal

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    Maybe a bit harsh on Calzaghe not saying he's a great but I honestly think Calzaghe would be lucky to crack a top 100 spot. He has the 0 and the longevity of a great but his resume doesn't cut it. How many great wins does he have? I'll give him Kessler and the controversial win against old man Hopkins. RJJ was shot. Eubank was past prime, Lacey was ****. The rest of his resume is trash.
     
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  8. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't tend to back their fighters?!?
    What a strange comment.
     
  9. Grooveongreg

    Grooveongreg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury due to his age . if he sorts his head out and bests haye, Ortiz, Parker, Joshua, etc over the next ten years and dominates in a better crop than klit did then he has a good chance

    Haye has zero chance. He doesn't fight often enough and is in it for the money. Too old now. He wd need 5 huge wins at least
     
  10. mcvey

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    You're right ,consider yourself slaughtered!
     
  11. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can't see any at the moment who could go on to ATG status, possibly HOF but not ATG which should be very selective.
     
  12. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    If he was to take out a somewhat aged Rigo (eventually) and a few other top wins, I think Frampton would be possible...unlikely, but possible.
     
  13. Bad News Brit

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    Probably not but I think we have plenty with the balls to try though. More so than the Americans have anyway.
     
  14. bailey

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    Show me a source that says Fury was proven to be found guilty? Bet you dont manage to do that, which will show how hollow your posting is. Trot on
     
  15. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why do you feel Eubank at 31 was past his prime and if you feel that then im sure when looking at ages and various results that you wouldnt rate Wards win over Froch, Degales win over Bute etc.
    Calzaghe beat many top SMWs in Eubank, Woodhall, Reid, Veit, Bika, Lacy, Brewer, Kessler, Mitchell who all either were or became a SMW title holder.
    Even if you look at Calzaghes wins like Sheika, it was a decent win when Sheika was coming off a win over prime G Johnson, who when faded and boiled down had a close debateable fight with Froch. Calzaghes win over Starie was of a similar level at the time to Frochs over Groves, its just the difference in hype