Is there any heavyweight in history who has both George Foreman's power + Muhammad Ali's speed?

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  1. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    First off, W aoki pfp I just finished ippo and its absolute peak. Second off, no heavyweight has that kind of power AND speed. If I had to pick one close it would be Tyson.
     
  2. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Are you saying Tyson was better than Galento??
     
  3. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I was gonna say Wilder.

    Sad, wasted potential that guy.
     
  4. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    None, Lewis moved like molasses compared to Ali, Wilder would never have close the power of Foreman in both hands nor would he ever reach close to Ali's speed, especially because Ali could carry it for 15 rounds, not even Tyson yeah he could pop off some rapid fire hooks but he never had the speed to go landing lead rights like Ali

    No heavyweight is close to the speed or power of them, let alone a combination of it, it's not just Ali's hand speed it's also his foot speed, and it's not just having a big right it's that Foreman had it in both hands at will he did not really have to set it up he could just throw
     
  5. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Louis & Tyson had the highest degree of both attributes, at least in handspeed.
     
  6. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mike Tyson
    Floyd Patterson

    Are probably two of the fastest Heavyweights with genuine KO power.

    For big men then Corrie Sanders is another one who had very quick handspeed and KO power in his left hand.
     
  7. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    Floyd Patterson with Foreman power? Ya gotta be kidding me… Patterson wasn’t that powerful but definitely fast. Why do you think Mike was what Patterson wasn’t? He had the same speed and a lot more power.
     
  8. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    Ali admitted Floyd was faster than himself. Also Foreman admitted Liston was as, if not more powerful than himself. Granted theres no one with a combination of the two.
     
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  9. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I never said Patterson had Foreman's power......I said he had KO power.

    No boxer has Foreman power with Ali's speed so I'm choosing boxers with very good attributes in both speed and power.

    Patterson hit very hard with his left hook see his 1 punch KO's of Henry Cooper, Ingemar Johansson.
     
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  10. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Teo Stevenson....if he counts that is.
     
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  11. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Patterson although it’s debatable, had for mine faster hands than Ali (check out some of his combinations in the second Johansson bout, they’re mind-blowing) & he very demonstrably punched harder than Ali. I think as I said though Louis & Tyson are the best blends of handspeed & power, though neither had Ali’s speed of manoeuvre.
     
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  12. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    Oh alr, guess I had the wrong impressions with the thread name.
     
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  13. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No problem buddy welcome to the forum BTW I've seen your threads on here but I don't think we've actually interacted before.
     
  14. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    It is probably not physically impossible, but it has never happened.
     
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  15. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    Thanks man, its been very welcoming so far. Some great dudes on here.