Is there any instances that pbf showed he had a suspect chin?

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  1. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    Pbf has great defense so there is no doubt that to know he have a suspect chin is quite hard to establish, unless you watched all of his fights in his career which i admittedly,did not. Can you please name the fights that "exposed" he may have a suspect chin and the fighters he fought during those times? I just wanted to be "enlightened" that pbf has a flaw if not his jaw y'know what i mean? Or is there a way to scrape through his defense and shoulder rolls.
     
  2. Thread Stealer

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    No.

    I mean if you really want to make the case you can say that Corley isn't a big puncher and stunned him, but that's reaching.
     
  3. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You can penetrate the shoulder roll. Good jabs get through....

    But Mayweather doesn't have a suspect chin. Castillo caught him flush quite a few times and we know he was a puncher. Judah did as well, as did DLH. Flush hard shots too....

    Like most fighters, he can be stunned by punches he doesn't see coming, but he sees most of them, and when he has been stunned, it hasn't been for very long.
     
  4. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    So, pbf doe'snt have a suspect jaw:huh ...that makes it harder for a ko puncher or good brawler to ko him even if he went through those shoulder rolls: not to mention his fast check hook and right straight.
    Is it only corley? How bout the moment hatton have him off-balanced? I really can't tell if hatton got him squarely though..nah i think he was only off-blanced.
    Well how bout jlc? Did'nt jlc gave him a great fight? Did jlc exposed pbf having a suspect chin? I did'nt watch that fight but i'm gonna find out if pbf has flaws on his game. So please give me hints..:smoke
     
  5. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If anything, Castillo, who had very good power, proved Mayweather didn't have a suspect chin. He gave him a great fight and caught him flush alot. Never hurt Mayweather.

    Corley caught him on the ropes when he didn't see it coming. Hatton caught him flush, but it only threw him off balance. He came straight back and showed no effects.

    Mayweather is simply going to have to be beaten by a better fighter. He shows no real flaws.
     
  6. Thread Stealer

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    Castillo did better work to the body than upstairs.

    In order to have a suspect chin, you should at least have been down or in serious trouble a few times.

    If this is the most "hurt" you've ever been:

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    And this is the only a time a punch has caused you to touch the canvas:

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    Then it's clear to say that you have not shown a suspect chin.
     
  7. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No one knows whether he has a suspect chin cuz no one can break through his defence. He has gotten popped before but then he guards against the punch that popped him or stunned him or figures out what he is doing wrong and then fixes it. Amazing technician.
     
  8. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    Damn, so this makes pbf legit..but i'm still waiting for real contenders to expose him though. Cotto might be the one, i don't know. I just hope that the fight would push through. If that push through and pbf wins, then it's safe to say that there will be no one who can challenge him and expose such flaws at least. Not unless there will be a great new star who is on the rise that can give pbf a run for his money while he is still on his prime. But pbf is 30 plus years old, and the only flaw that might come out as an advantage for his enemies in the coming years might be his age like all fighters would have.
    Damn, imagine a fighter who would get past great fighters on his time without a damn flaw. That might only be pbf.
     
  9. Thread Stealer

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    Every fighter has some sort of flaw.

    Mayweather has injury prone hands, diminished power at higher weights, and can be outhustled because he's so selective (i.e. often not active enough) with his hands.
     
  10. Brian123

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    "..but i'm still waiting for real contenders to expose him though. Cotto might .."

    Mayrunner will NOT fight Cotto -he said he would three years ago and now knows that is a mistake- hell Mayrunner won't (read-has not) even fight any of the top ten Welter Weights!
     
  11. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    DLH should beat him only because the man that taught PBF his defence is the man training DLH. If anyone knows the holes in the defensive technique it should be him, right, the one who taught it to the son? I am stressing the word "should". Other than this Cotto. But I fear Cotto will try the pressure **** which doesn't work. Perhaps continuingly circling to the left like Marquez against Pac where Floyd keeps his guard low and throwing mad punches like Williams against Marg. What do you guys think? Myself, I think only a technical boxer with a better game can beat Floyd.
     
  12. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    Well i guessed he gauged his efficiency against former lights welters that he can bully,(hatton) since pbf came all the way from 130.But since pbf has a belt now weather he likes it or not he'll meet those top 10 welters. And i wish it would be cotto. It will be a monumental fight for pbf because it would prove that he is a real deal if he beats cotto.
     
  13. Spitbucket

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    One of the things that makes it difficult to gage PBF's chin is that he usually fights scared(not unlike Jones).

    Their main goal in the ring is to avoid getting hit which means they are extremely focused on anything the oponent might throw and therefore it's almost impossible to catch them with anything they are not expecting.

    Fighting scared is also one of the main reasons they were so successful(no need to mention their extreme god-given talents)
     
  14. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    So who's the best technical boxer right now close to pbf's weight"?
    All i know as far as i'm concerned the one who can be close to superior technical skills or a bit a notch higher IMO would be JMM. JMM is like a chess player, expose yor mistakes and he will take advantage of it.
    And since you said that if there is any fighter who can give pbf a real challenfge is someone trained by his dad. Is'nt guz trained by SR.? They both know the system and knows it flaws.
     
  15. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    Aw man i got work to do i'll be back.