Is there any instances that pbf showed he had a suspect chin?

Well to be honest, other than Cotto. Who would you consider to be a top welterweight? Williams just lost, Margarito isn't deserving, Shane lost to Cotto and is fighting Zab. Berto is unproven, and Quintana doesn't deserve a shot either. Who else is out there? He might as well fight Oscar over Cotto. Money talks and NOTHING else. Hell Floyd should fight Oscar 10 times if the oppertunity presented itself. From a business stand point and money wise it's a fight that's gonna generate alot of money. Why fight Cotto for less when he can fight Oscar for more? I don't see anything wrong there.

 

I agree with everything you just said. Couldn't have said it any better:good

 

Prey tell, why is Margarito not deserving?:hi:

 

Well I won't put Margo in the same category with Quintana. Margo has taken risks like fighting Paul Williams which I don't think should discredit him at all. But as far as a following and people demanding Margo to fight Floyd, Margo doesn't have. If anything he's still somewhat of an unknown to the average Boxing fan. A Mayweather-Margo or Mayweather-Cotto fight wouldn't be as big of an event as oppose to a Mayweather-Delahoya fight because not only are the hardcore fans that know Boxing are gonna watch it, but the average fans are gonna watch it also because they know who Delahoya is. That's why in that sense Margo doesn't deserve. He's not a ppv attraction.

 

From a business sense, I understand everything you are saying.

But this is one of the problem with boxing and your way of thinking.

You can't just try and make a fight just because you know it's going to make lot's of money regardless of what non-fights they turn out to be.

You gotta give fans what they want, and that is ---Have the best fighters fight the best fighters, period, end of sentence!

 

There's a ton of sense to what you just said and I totally agree, But most the fans would prefer Delahoya. The only people that want Margo to fight Floyd are his little following. The only people that want Cotto to fight Floyd is his following. Aside from the people that support them, there's noone else hollering about Mayweather-Cotto, Mayweather-Margo. Delahoya is the ONLY known name there.

 

Fighting scared is a great way to put it!:good

At my gym when guys starts doing "the Mayweather dance" the owner kicks 'em out of the ring-if they do it again he gives them their money back and tells them to go some place else-boxing is about fighting not shoulder rolls and tap dancing.

 

I saw what Mayweather did to Diego Corrales, Arturo Gatti, Zab Judah, and Ricky Fatton, and none of that **** looked like tap dancing to me. He boxed there ears off. Maybe your gym is about guys who stand and trade and don't know **** about NOT getting hit. Over here in NY that's called defense. I was tought that shoulder roll and I love using it. And i'm gonna continue to use it when I turn pro. James Toney uses a shoulder roll, what's wrong with it? It's a legal move, very good for defense. But you gotta have SKILLS to use a shoulder roll, maybe you and your gym don't have NONE If your gym doesn't appreciate defense then your gym is WACK

 

Obviously you box at the Irish Palooka gym.

 

Toney also threw punches in bunches and has about 3x as many KO's as Mayrunner's measly 3KO'S!
Skills to tuck your chin to your shoulder?atsch

 

Mayweather has 25 KO'S. Floyd uses EFFECTIVE shoulder rolling to COUNTER. He don't have to throw punches in bunches. He lands CLEANLY with what he does and it ALWAYS amounts into WINS. And yes I mean skills to tuck your chin in your shoulder roll punches side to side and AVOID shots, like Floyd does. Just like Floyd does. Floyd Sr once and a while trains guys in our gym. That shoulder rolling tucking your chin **** seems to be VERY effective to me and everyone there watching. But I train at the best gym, but that's why we say NY is the best for a reason

 

"Mayweather has 25 KO'S"

No he has 3 KO'S you mean TKO'S-still pitiful.

He wins because he fights older or mismatched weight classes.

He will not fight top guys in his weightclass pure and simple and just 5 fights ago he was fighting old losers like Sharmba Mitchell 38 years old, Carlos Manuel Baldomir 35 years old, and lets not forget all time greats like Henry Bruseles and DeMarcus Corley!

 

Hater.

 

You can be as technical as you like. Bottom line is he STOPPED 25 men that didn't make the distance with him. Now as for Sharmba Mitchell. Noone else was available for that fight. Floyd wanted Zab or Shane for that fight, they weren't available Mitchell stepped up and Floyd took it. Carlos Baldomir? He was the welterweight champion who just came off BIG WINS over Judah and Gatti. Remember Baldomir was the recognized WELTERWEIGHT champion. That was the OBVIOUS fight for Floyd to take. Baldo WAS the champ. Henry Bruseles? Ok i'll give you that one, that's NOT top competiton but you CAN'T say he went the distance with Floyd Chop Chop Corley. That was Floyds FIRST fight at 140 and a very good measuring stick for him. Corley was a former champion, went the distance with Judah and seemed to be a good opponent to see how well Floyd would do at 140. Nothing at all wrong with taking that fight. So what's your point?