Is there any set of life circumstances that would make Brian London a top 10 H2H heavyweight?

Brian could repeatedly wind himself all the way back to the womb for a new beginning and an alternate life path - as many times as Ashton Kutcher did in The Butterfly Effect - but it would always be to no avail.

Give me the child until he is 7 and I’ll still give you the Brian London that fought in the 50s/60s/70s.

There’s reshaping someone in their formative years and providing ongoing support but that is a totally separate proposition to having to perform an actual miracle.

 

He wasn't a war hero but I read an excellent book on him by Andy Sumner from Preston, himself a very interesting man. Language teacher and a boxing trainer. Apparently Brian started boxing during his national service in the RAF when it was found out he was the son of Jack London, real name Harper, ex British heavyweight champion.
It is said that Dillian Whyte has boxed a lot of top heavies. In my opinion. not oin comparison with Brian. His opposition over a long career was infinitely better. Whites only superior opponents were Fury and Joshua.

Good enough assessment. Admitted he only boxed pro for the money. Owned a nightclub in Blackpool at which he stood on the door himself.

 

NO, because how many fella's can you squeeze into a Top 10... and even the thought of London winning a Title or something to throw him into the mix is Proof that ALL Achievement Based Lists ARE Bogus.

a London type fighter who can win or defend a title or two to put the like in an discussion or two, is an absolute insult to the True Dozens and Hundreds even of Truly Great 1st Class Boxers & Fighters who H2H are far, far superior to the London's of the Ring.

advice, ABANDON All manner of Achievement Based Lists.

for the love of the Brian London's, Audley Harrison's and Tyson Fury's... PLEASE!

 

I'll do my best. First things first, he get's Chappie Blackburn as his coach- Chappie serves as his adoptive farther. They live in the mountains of Russia, isolated from the world in a boxing compound.

Our Brian Moscow will spar from 6 upwards Benitez style with State sponsored Russian Amateurs of a similar age bracket on similar programs of similar sizes.

Outside this regime he will hone what Blackburn has to teach for hours and hours a day- once he hits the dawn of puberty he will begin the HGH feasting. The HGH is to "super-charge" his puberty to grow his skull size, overall bone density, fist, height and boxing assistant organs (Lungs and heart) we won't use PED's like Test
as this will close his growth plates quicker.

During all this he'll be training with Robert Bannister for his cardio base- Robert will be forced to sick attack dogs onto Brian, Jirov style to help motivate him to run, character building.

We will also begin the hypnosis/propaganda- maybe con him into thinking God only loves the HW champion, we'll also kidnap his mother and let him know should he lose a bout she'll lose a piece of herself- toes, fingers and eventually more should he be a dud- not an idle threat he'll lose his debut to a durable Journeyman, regardless of how well he does the judges will rob him and we'll send him her big toe- he has to eat it... now that he is sufficiently motivated the painful bone lengthening surgery begins- no numbing this will help build more character- now that he's about 3 inches (anymore and it could get complicated) taller from the bone surgery and an extra inch or two from the HGH we have a 6ft5 Brian.

Sadly he's about to lose an inch as we are going to fuse his spine essentially making him neck less, his skull and torso will be one unit, doing this will remove his necks entire mobility but! the trunk moves the head in boxing so he won't mind- what this will do will make him just about impossible to KO from anything but cuts or death checkout what it did to Yoel Romero's chin, head kicks for breakfast.

Now is the time he starts the PED's of the Gods, it'll be a death march to the grave from here- he'll have his veins pumped with everything that can add even a little benefit, if it doesn't impede his ability to fight he's taking it to the limit Brian only needs to fight till 28- shortening his life expectancy isn't an issue.

No coming off cycle unless it benefits performance. The weight training also begins here with the Russian lifting team- he probably breaks a few bench records here by accident too, I forecast an 80lbs extra weight gain from training, bloating, thicker and longer bones the extra organ size, new “super puberty” mass and all that.

So now we have the 280lbs 6ft4 Brian Moscow. Everyday endless quality sparring, a super trainer like Blackburn, PED's and bone surgeries should be enough to make him top shelf, especially debuting in 1947 the same year as Rocky Marciano. He’ll literally be a Kajiu in the ring.

I'll admit it @cross_trainer Brian Moscow was good but no Tire Iron Jones...

 

No. London was a good on top fighter.If he fancied the job he could pull off an unexpected win occasionally, but he wasn't really ever a top level fighter,imo

 

Thanks for the book recommendation.

 

Missing the point of the thread, create a circumstance giving him the best chance- whether that’s trained at birth by Joe Louis or making him a super mutant within human means like me.

 

No.

"My dad was Jack London and I was expected to fight as well. I was never a great fighter. I was just really, really fit" - Brian London.

Brian London never truly liked boxing, his father being a boxer pushed Brian into pugilism.

Our sport especially at the highest level is not one to be in if you are not committed to the sport, Brian was not, it had one purpose only for him, money.

 

Plenty of greats fought for nothing but money, it is one of the great drivers of the sports history.

 

I gave my opinion of London,I'm not interested in super mutants or other comic strip style stuff let those that are carry on.

 

Considering most of this forum is built on make believe it’s not far off the mark of your usual work- you have more experience then you know, give it a try.

 

He could do if every other top ten heavyweight in history was Richard Dunn...

 

"You can run a jackass from sunup to sundown and he ain't never gonna win the Kentucky Derby." --- Dizzy Dean