Is there any version of Canelo that could beat Thomas Hearns?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Boxingiq2020, Mar 17, 2024.


Is there any version of Canelo that could beat Thomas Hearns?

Poll closed Apr 17, 2024.
  1. YES.

    34.8%
  2. NO. Tommy beats him every time.

    65.2%
  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    23,275
    9,949
    Aug 1, 2012
    Hearns is not stopping Canelo, we can pretty much put that idea to rest. Not because Hearns isn't a puncher, but because Canelo's ATG chin and how well he slips and rolls with punches. If anyone is getting hurt, it's Hearns. As far as winning a decision over Canelo at 154, yes I could see that. Considering how much success Trout and Lara had against Canelo, both close on the cards, and some thought Canelo lost those fights, Hearns was better than Trout or Lara, Tommy's work rate and rangy jab would be a big problem and I do think he's capable of outboxing Canelo at 154.
     
  2. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    25,988
    19,892
    Nov 27, 2010
    Unlike Bivol, Hearns had a weak jaw and Canelo would be able to hurt him. Hell, Iran Barkley destroyed him, and like him or not Canelo is better than Barkley.
     
  3. dougingb

    dougingb Member Full Member

    110
    56
    Oct 7, 2007
    Only if the fight is in Vegas. If Canelo can last the distance he'll get the decision.
     
    KINGWILDER likes this.
  4. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

    61,242
    81,738
    Aug 21, 2012
    No Bivol neutralized Canelo with his footwork and his distance.
     
    KINGWILDER likes this.
  5. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,634
    3,112
    Aug 26, 2020
    X2
    Also Tommy's power would bother Canelo, I could easily see him scoring a knockout. At any weight. Hearns was so much better as a boxer that he would be landing on Canelo like mad.
     
    Jackstraw and Reinhardt like this.
  6. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

    75,747
    40,268
    Jan 22, 2015
    The 160-168 pound version of Canelo would have the best chance of beating The Hitman. He was alot better at those weights.
     
    KINGWILDER and Rumsfeld like this.
  7. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,789
    2,599
    May 11, 2023
    Hearns was a monster and imo would be a terrible stylistic match up for Canelo. At 154 I think he beats Canelo by wide decision (with proper judging not Canelo’s bought officials) or by late TKO. At middleweight I back him to also get the job done on points. At 168 and 175 it becomes a lot closer and I think Canelo would be in with a shout. Still a very tough fight for him.
     
    Loudon likes this.
  8. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    17,302
    10,892
    Jun 5, 2010
    There is no version of Canelo that could beat Hearns.

    Not at 154, 160, 168 or 175.

    Hearns had every attribute that Canelo has struggled with throughout his entire career................and not only held those attributes but was far superior to the men who gave Canelo Hell. And Canelo ain't stopping Hearns.
     
  9. AngryBirds

    AngryBirds Well-Known Member banned Full Member

    1,840
    2,023
    Sep 3, 2022
    It ain’t like Hearns would simply walk all over Canelo and not ever get countered. I don’t see Hearns KOing Canelo. Winning on points yes, but what are the odds he’ll do that and not get his glass chin shattered before round 12?
     
  10. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    17,302
    10,892
    Jun 5, 2010
    I think the odds are very good his chin doesn't get shattered by Canelo. His chin failed only 3 times in his prime, against Leonard (a come from behind war of attrition that if it were modern day Hearns would've won by UD12) , Hagler (the 1,2 or 3rd greatest MW of all time in a war) and Barkley (the physically largest, most monstrous MW in history). Canelo does not have the engine to press and take it to Hearns like those 3 did. Hearn's chin didn't just fail outta nowhere, you had to beat on it.

    As for outboxing and countering with any kind of sustained success, at no point in his entire career was Hearns outboxed and we've honestly seen Canelo outboxed a few times, and against guys that were nowhere near the boxer puncher that Hearns was. I do think Canelo has a sturdy chin, but he also wears down, he was actually stunned by Golovkin in the first two fights late. I would personally lean more towards a decision win though but I don't think a stoppage is out of the question.
     
    Jackstraw and KINGWILDER like this.
  11. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,811
    33,129
    Jan 14, 2022
    Heres the thing Canelo is a methodical pressure fighter with a fairly low punch output that's not really the way to beat Hearns.

    You have to be willing to walkthrough Hearns's punches like Barkley did, or jump straight on Hearns and engage him in a war like Hagler did.

    Does Canelo really fight like that ? No. Canelo would be giving Hearns time and space to use his jab and right hand, and whilst Canelo does have a very solid chin I don't think hes fought a puncher quite like Hearns before. So if Canelo does start getting hit with those right hands how eager would he be to consistently apply pressure on Hearns ?

    Overall I think 154 prime Hearns definitely beats pre prime Canelo at 154, at Middleweight Hearns was a bit more hit and miss so Canelo's best chance would be at that weight. At 175 the version of Hearns who beat Hill and destroyed Andries ? I see Hearns beating Canelo aswell.
     
  12. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

    11,078
    10,146
    Oct 1, 2011
    Yes, his foot work coupled with the jab, very true. I still believe TH could do pretty much the same thing. Just don't know if the footwork is on the same level as Bivol.
     
    KINGWILDER and BCS8 like this.
  13. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

    11,078
    10,146
    Oct 1, 2011
    That is very true. That chin could be cracked for sure. Hearns definitely doesn't want to slug it out too often with Canelo. As far as the Barkley fight goes, Hearns had already been in some wars and wasn't prime.
     
    vast likes this.
  14. AngryBirds

    AngryBirds Well-Known Member banned Full Member

    1,840
    2,023
    Sep 3, 2022
    Maybe not, but Canelo also doesn't need an engine as good as theirs because his style isn't based on high intensity/volume output. Its landing accurate hard hitting shots that will weaken the other guys engine and he's shown great success with that approach against boxers. Correct me if I'm wrong but Hearns hasn't been to war with someone as hard hitting and sturdy as Canelo has he?

    Can Hearns get Canelo out of there before Canelo weakens him with too many body shots? I'm gonna say no. Between the sturdier chin, better defense skills, better ring IQ, greater firepower and more experience against dealing with elite boxers who have better skills than Hearns (Floyd and Bivol), I don't see Hearns getting rid of Canelo before Canelo can get rid of him.

    I think this would go much the way of the Saunders fight in that Canelo would be losing on the scorecards until he manages to slow down Hearns enough and eventually clips him late.
     
    BCS8 likes this.
  15. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

    56,396
    10,886
    Jul 28, 2009
    There's a reason that Hearns was anachronistically nicknamed "The Thin Kovalev" back when he'd moved up to LHW. Nobody would understand that reason for quite some time, but that's going to happen in those situations.
     
    BCS8 likes this.