Is There Anyone in Boxing Who Can Even COMPETE with Vitali Klitschko?

Addie · Dec 12, 2009

...It's really hard to see why anyone would like watching Vitali fight.

paulfv · Dec 12, 2009

Babality said: ↑

I get what you are saying there and I don't think Haye would beat Vitali. But about the power, Haye's got a style (if he tries...) that
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. Even if he doesn't hit as hard as Corrie or Lennox, he still has plenty of power.
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I will give you this. Though I will also add that Sanders hit VK with a hard left hook VK never saw coming and though it drove VK across the ring, he still didn't get KD.

Haye presents a unique challenge, I will give him that.

paulfv · Dec 12, 2009

AGM said: ↑

Vitali isn't looking the force he once was imo. I'd still favour him against the leading conteders - Chambers, Haye and Povetkin - but they'd be alot more competitive than that fake Johnson was tonight.
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If Chambers can take a punch that fight could be interesting. Could see that, especially after Chambers took care of Dmitrienko.

aduiski · Dec 12, 2009

paulfv said: ↑

And don't say Wlad, because that will never happen.

I haven't watched the Vitali-Johnson match yet, so I can't comment on what happened. But I have read reports and it sounds like Johnson was either impotent/in survival mode but was still content to try to talk trash while he won 1 round out of 36 possible on the judges' cards.

Arreola had some moments vs Vitali, as did Gomez. But neither man had the ability to make their fights actually competitive over the course of the bout.

Haye is not a candidate, IMO. He doesn't punch harder than did Lennox Lewis or Corrie Sanders, and Vitai has never even been off his feet, let alone T/KO'd. It's inconceivable -- even at Vitali's age -- that Haye could outpoint him or likely even last the 12 rounds given Haye's tinfoil beard.

Who is there, then? Is there anyone who can actually test Vitali?

I think the answer is, sadly, "no."

All that's left for Vitali now is to get three more wins to surpass Lewis' career record and to T/KO Haye. Then I think he hangs 'em up. If he stays busy, maybe one or one-and-a-half more years in the ring and then he can head off to the next phase in his life.

It's amazing that this guy, the man with the highest KO % in HW history, was once called a "quitter." Now, he can't even find a worthy opponent to test him and hasn't really had one since Lennox Lewis reneged on a potential rematch or Sanders got blown up in eight rounds.
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Watch the fight first...Vatali is not that good anymore... At this point would give to each of Chambers, Haye and Povetkin 50% chance of beating Vitali. One year down the road I would give each of these 3 70% chance of beating Vitali.

Broxi · Dec 12, 2009

Look, Haye is the only fight out there left, the only one who would bring something to the table, I know it, you know it, Haye knows it & the Klitschkos know it.

The sooner they iron out a unification fight with either of them, the better.

Haye will take care of Ruiz easily, Wlad will dispose of Chambers and then they can all get down to brass tacks.

paulfv · Dec 12, 2009

Broxi said: ↑

Look, Haye is the only fight out there left, the only one who would bring something to the table, I know it, you know it, Haye knows it & the Klitschkos know it.

The sooner they iron out a unification fight with either of them, the better.

Haye will take care of Ruiz easily, Wlad will dispose of Chambers and then they can all get down to brass tacks.
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Vitali definitely wants to fight Haye before he retires.

paulfv · Dec 12, 2009

aduiski said: ↑

Watch the fight first...Vatali is not that good anymore... At this point would give to each of Chambers, Haye and Povetkin 50% chance of beating Vitali. One year down the road I would give each of these 3 70% chance of beating Vitali.
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If my theory is correct, Vitali would only have to beat two other guys and then Haye and he hangs them up. He doesn't have to be dominant to do that, especially if he looked bad tonight but still only dropped 1 round.

techks · Dec 12, 2009

I give Adamek, Haye, and Chambers all a chance to win. A higher chance if they fight Vitali and a lower chance if they fight Vlad.

Farmboxer · Dec 12, 2009

It's a shame that Haye does not have the confidence that the haters here do. Haye has refused to fight Vitali and Vlad three times? Why is that?

Broxi · Dec 12, 2009

paulfv said: ↑

Vitali definitely wants to fight Haye before he retires.
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Then they need to make a reasonable deal with the guy, he's not about to fight the toughest fight of his career for **** all.

dublynflya · Dec 12, 2009

paulfv said: ↑

And don't say Wlad, because that will never happen.

I haven't watched the Vitali-Johnson match yet, so I can't comment on what happened. But I have read reports and it sounds like Johnson was either impotent/in survival mode but was still content to try to talk trash while he won 1 round out of 36 possible on the judges' cards.

Arreola had some moments vs Vitali, as did Gomez. But neither man had the ability to make their fights actually competitive over the course of the bout.

Haye is not a candidate, IMO. He doesn't punch harder than did Lennox Lewis or Corrie Sanders, and Vitai has never even been off his feet, let alone T/KO'd. It's inconceivable -- even at Vitali's age -- that Haye could outpoint him or likely even last the 12 rounds given Haye's tinfoil beard.

Who is there, then? Is there anyone who can actually test Vitali?

I think the answer is, sadly, "no."

All that's left for Vitali now is to get three more wins to surpass Lewis' career record and to T/KO Haye. Then I think he hangs 'em up. If he stays busy, maybe one or one-and-a-half more years in the ring and then he can head off to the next phase in his life.

It's amazing that this guy, the man with the highest KO % in HW history, was once called a "quitter." Now, he can't even find a worthy opponent to test him and hasn't really had one since Lennox Lewis reneged on a potential rematch or Sanders got blown up in eight rounds.
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Povetkin, possibly!! Other than that, no-one else springs to mind!!

boxingcar · Dec 12, 2009

Probably Povetkin , Haye & Boytsov. (i know boytsov is not as experienced as the others but he's def very skilled and powerful )

paulfv · Dec 12, 2009

Broxi said: ↑

Then they need to make a reasonable deal with the guy, he's not about to fight the toughest fight of his career for **** all.
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I think when the time comes the fight will get made with reasonable conditions. Vitali definitely wants the fight and he doesn't have forever to play around at his age.

Farmboxer · Dec 12, 2009

Haye does not want the fight, which is a problem. I guess if Vitali and Vlad offer 100% of the purse, perhaps Haye would do such. If Vitali or Vlad had fought like Haye, can you imagine what the delusional Euro haters would say?

RonnieHornschuh · Dec 12, 2009

Haye was afraid of Valuev, and ran for the whole fight. What makes you Hayelords think that he would chase after Vitali and knock him out?

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