Is there anyone that poses a threat to Fedor?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Shpion, Jun 18, 2007.


  1. oblate

    oblate Active Member Full Member

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    i mean obviously he could get cut and have the fight be stopped. i think his biggest threat his cro cop. if cro cop would land a perfect kick he could knock fedor out cold. If the kick isnt perfect and fedor is still conscious then thats a problem. fujita had him on ***** street and he still finished the fight. only way to beat him is to get him out cold.
     
  2. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Monson is a great choice.

    Theres two types of fighters that could beat Fedor, great takedown guys with extensive submission training, Couture being the #1 threat in my opinion with Arona being the second, Barnett being third, and Monson being fourth. Gonzaga is another who fits the description, as does the Ricco of a few years and a hundred pounds ago, and the Mir before he wrecked his bike, a dark horse that lacks the overall skills but fits the description is Cacareco.

    The second type is the lights out striker with great takedown defense, although Fedor already defeated the best of this breed in CroCop, Liddell might stand a better shot than CroCop, as Fedor seems more suseptible to punches than kicks, plus Liddell can put peoples lights out moving in any direction with both hands, whereas CC is more limited to coming forward with either the LHK or the straight left hand. Roman Zentsov also has the left hook from hell, but they are training partners and friends, not to mention Zentsov's lack of extremely high level takedown defense.

    That being said, the only one I would feel remotely comfortable picking, even given my gambling / expected value way of looking at fights would be Couture or Arona.
     
  3. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    Arona is 1-3 in his last 4 fights. He has been through some vicious punishment and nasty KO's
    He is not the fighter that he once was and not the same fighter that fought Fedor,he would stand little chance with him.

    Monson already declined to fight him which led to the Matt Lindland situation.
     
  4. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    It's hard to see anyone ultimately come through to beat Fedor! Loads of guys have had moments against him or even troubled him consistently but no one has come through.

    In combat there really is no such thing as untouchable and invincible. When these bad spots happen in a fight, and they will, it's how you come through them. Fedor comes through it all no matter what the problem.

    How many fighters come through the sort of freaky **** he does? and on a consistent basis?

    I'm thinking B.J. Penn but I can't think of many. There was one time I think Hughes had Penn in a grab and Penn was like a ****ing slimeball the way he got out of it.
     
  5. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    BJ Penn is one of the most talented MMA fighters out there.
    Truly phenomenal.
     
  6. amhlilhaus

    amhlilhaus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    fedor will lose due to a cut sooner rather than later.
     
  7. bigG

    bigG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    goin on past results...anyone COULD beat him.....who expected crocop to get brutally ko'd...who thought mat sera could touch the unbeatable gsp......its much much harder to stay unbeaten in this game than in boxing...too many variable, to many hungry, skillfull guys.....whilst i appreciate fedor looks pretty untouchable, on any given night, anything can happen in the octagon....
     
  8. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Seriously, i just thought of a completely new perspective. Instead of looking for a person who can beat him we should just see how long Fedor can go "undefeated". I mean, like bigG said, this sport has so many variables that anyone can be beaten and Fedor walked pretty much through every style there is out there today. In MMA no one is unbeatable, which makes it that much harder to stay unbeaten especially while fighting different styles. I say we just sit back and enjoy the spectacle that Fedor brings every fight :p.
     
  9. undefeated

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  10. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    I'm not talking about talent or training. I'm talking about skill.

    Penn went to an SD I think it was with GSP. He's 1-1 with Hughes. He has the loss to Pulver but even then it questionable as to whether or not he made Pulver tap inside the time limit.

    Penn does some freaky ****. The sort of things Penn and Fedor do, I wouldn't even call it skill, I'd just call it freaky ****.
     
  11. kentauros

    kentauros New Member Full Member

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    Fedor is undefeated but he didnt face top fighter since fight with Cro Cop (VIII/2005).He should face top fighters not cans like Zulu.I would like to see Fedor vs Barnett.
     
  12. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    Mark Hunt is a top 10 heavyweight.
    Hunt did beat Cro Cop remember.
     
  13. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Thats because BJ comes from a well to do background and doesnt really need MMA. He just happens to be very good at BJJ and naturally blessed as well as talented.
     
  14. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    You may want to watch his fight with Fujita then..:think
     
  15. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Monson doesnt.His a powerful dude who likes pushing cars around parking lots and doing powerlifting routines.But his boxing skills are horrid.His head movement is zero his jab is a none plus, his hands are slow, and his shots are a non plus because his so muscle bound.Monson doesnt train explosively and cannot react so because of his muscle mass.His ground game is tight as an ADCC champ but against a legit Sambo/Judoka like Fedor who trains with the right regime to compliment his technique he wouldnt stand a chance of submitting him other than using brute strength, of which Fedor has in abundance.