Is there anyone that thinks that Fedor is not as good as he's meant to be?

I think his stand up is poor. Effective but poor. As a boxer I would expect him to be dominated. I don't even think he is a fully fledged heavyweight!!! He bombs though and when he lands, it hurts.

 

The guy you're referring to is Andrei Arlovski. And yes, his style presents a little bit of problems for Fedor. The same way a big strong HW like Brett Rogers gave Fedor some problems as well. However, Fedor's ability to withstand his opponents strengths is amazing. When fighting Fedor, the opponent has to fight the perfect game plan the entire fight. That's never been done yet, because as soon as his opponent makes a mistake, the fight is over. Fedor is the best P4P fighter on the planet. He's as great as he's meant to be, if not greater IMO.

 

He is definitely that good. He has fought ALL sorts of styles too and always came out on top.

He beat the **** out of a prime nog on the ground, and outstruck a prime fedor on his feet. Enough said. The guy is an absolute marvel

 

It was a boon. Fedor is no defensive specialist, and he's been hit like that before. Fedor was never hurt or even stunned by Arlovski. He was nearly knocked out against Fugita in a much worser situation in which his legs almost gave out from under him off a much harder shot than anything Arlovski landed. Fedor isn't the greatest striker but that fight wasn't exposed as a weakness for him.

I say Fedor has become greater than he was meant to be IMO because, his style isn't the kind that that has longevity for a fighter's career. With the level of opposition that he's faced, as much as he's been hit, and for as long as he's been doing this and still being #1 is amazing to me. Amost every top fighter has his time when he's #1 in his division or #1 in his sport. Fedor has been the best for several years now. It honestly seems like he might be one of the lucky ones that leave the sport on his terms and on top.

 

Don't you mean Cro Cop? He out outstruck a prime Cro Cop?

 

He outstruck himself, the greatest heavyweight in the world. That's why he's the best.

 

How do guys think Fedor would fare against the behemoths like Brock Lesnar and Shane Carwin? Bobby Lashley could also become part of this discussion in due time and he is in Strikeforce so he and Fedor could end up meeting in a couple years. Fedor was briefly pressed against the cage and taking punches from Brett Rogers from the bottom position. Carwin and Lesnar are both about 295lbs. when not training and come down to 265 for their fights. Fedor is 230lbs. and has always seemed slightly fleshy in his midsection. Would Lesnar or Carwin simply be too powerful for Fedor to beat? Opinions are greatly appreciated.

 

IMO neither guy can beat Fedor. Lesnar actually poses a bit more problems for Fedor than Carwin does because Lesnar is gonna come to fight on the ground. Carwin likes to swing and is there to be hit. If Carwin presses Fedor against the fense like he did Mir, he's not really gonna do much with him there, just as Rogers didn't. The ref will eventually start the fight over.

Carwin was able to do damage to Mir against the fense because Mir was in an angle to get hit, and Mir can't take to much damage. Fedor can, but would protect himself better. Of course Carwin may use his Wrestling at some point, but he really likes to stand. Fedor can knockout big men, he's done it several times. If Fedor connected on Carwin's jaw the way Gonzaga did, Carwin gets no second chances, Fedor will put him away.

On the other hand with Lesnar, it would take more time for Fedor to catch him with something because Lesnar doesn't wanna get hit. Lashley can also be thrown in the mix, but he has to become a contender first.

 

Everyone who fights Fedor says he is a monster in terms of strength. I think his technique along with his own power is too much for any of these guys. Brock hasn't KOed anyone yet so I doubt he would KO Fedor, Shane s only chance is a lucky KO shot, which is possible with his power. I just don't see what others see I don't think Fedor gets beat by anybody on the scene now. I think he loses (if ever) by an unsuspecting opponent.

 

In terms of KO for Brock I mean he hasn't KOed anyone with one punch. Out cold.

 

Fedor is as good as everybody says he is. His stand up is not just as good as it could be, but the fact he can end fights with one shot, has good takedowns and has a very good chin negates this weakness in a lot of ways.

He is the best HW off his back thats bigtime, because of the way he can take a big shot and still roll into a sub rather than either getting hurt or shelling up.

His top game is superb and he has the most brutal ground and pound in mma.

He never gets flustered and remains calm at all times regardless of the situation he finds himself in.

Basically he is as good as everybody says easy.

 

I'd like to see him against a brute like Lesnar. I want to see how he would answer if he was pinned down by a ton of muscle.

I think Lesnar would be one of the fights where Fedor would be preparing for special case. He usually trains with same regime against all opponents with few exceptions. Say, for Crocop he went to Holland and trained with the best of kickboxers to be ready for CC. And he executed the game to the perfection really. So against Brock I think he'd train to stay away from being taken down, and working against really heavy guys while he's on bottom.