Is this at least the second best era ever for the HW division?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Vern, Apr 21, 2011.


  1. TheGreat

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    Tyson got beat by Journeymean when he was an old man after 20 yrs as a pro, Wlad got his ass kicked by journeymen when he was in his prime, big difference nuthugger.
     
  2. Threetime no1

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    Good post, but the last line nailed it.
     
  3. TheGreat

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    Foreman got lucky against glass jawed Moorer, but at 45 he wasn't very good, he just had that 1 good win, Shultz, Morrison, Briggs, and Saverese all gave him hell and they were not elite. As for Holyfield he has actaully did much better against Ibrigamov and SNV, than he did against Byrd and Toney. And lets not even get started on Briggs and Maskiev.
     
  4. Boxed Ears

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    Same thing happened with Secondo Carnera and his big brother. :verysad
     
  5. Threetime no1

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    :lol:
     
  6. Squire

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    The average heavyweight weighs more because he is generally 3 or 4 inches taller. Why are Wlad and Vitali so much heavier than Louis? Because of height. Neither of them are built like bodybuilders, they are just athletic 6'6.5/6'7.5 guys.

    No decade is worse? How about the 60s and the decades before it. You might not find current heavyweight boxing very exciting but that's your problem
     
  7. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    good post this era certaintly isnt the worst, second best all time? im not sure

    the 70's was obviously i think every ones best

    90's wasnt bad either

    this is a good era i think its just the champs are far ahead of the challengers
     
  8. hussleman

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    This is the worse era ever for Hw's.
     
  9. Povetkinfan

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    There are a lot of really good HWs but bcause the Klitchkos are so outstanding they are made to look nothing special.

    Here are a few fighters who would have been champs in the past and, in some periods, dominant ones too.

    Chambers
    Helenius
    Povetkin
    Boystov
    Chagaev
    Peters
    Gomez
    Arreola
     
  10. H .

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    this is correct

    I think Ali is the wrong man to disrespect along with the greats before him
     
  11. Beekeeper

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    :lol::yep:rofl
     
  12. Vern

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    As to be expected I have seen a lot of haters in this thread yet again offering no constructive criticism what so ever. So to the haters I have made it easier for them. Haters and anybody else rate these fighters out of 10.


    Wlad
    Vitali
    Haye
    Adamek
    Povetkin
    Chagaev
    Helenuis
    Thompson
    Valuev
    Solis
    Chambers
    Byrd
    Sanders
    Rahman
    Briggs
    Boystov
    Juan Carlos Gomez
    Dimitrenko
    Peter
    Ustinov
    Pulev
    Ibragnimov
    Fury
    Chisora
    Pianetia
    Platov
    Glazkov
    Liakhovich
    Toney
     
  13. rushman

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    Rate them? There are 4 I have never even heard of before.

    Pianetia? Isn't that like a donkey made out of paper mache?
     
  14. Manning

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    You have to expand your mind a little, believe it or not there is actually good fighters outside of the Anglosphere.
     
  15. ApatheticLeader

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    Chambers - No. He would either be overpowered or outworked by most at the top, especially during the 70s/80s with the superior workrate of the times.
    Helenius - Probably not, ask me in a few years.
    Povetkin - Probably not, see above.
    Boystov - No. He just isn't good enough at any department really.
    Chagaev - No, but I could see him being a tough contender at the bottom of the top 10/15 in most eras.
    Peters - No, just no.
    Gomez - A younger Gomez, perhaps. The version we've seen in the heavyweight division, no.
    Arreola - I genuinely feel there are eras he could have done very well in. So I'll let this one pass.

    Also, I think Tony Thompson would be a decent contender in most eras.