Is this Floyds Easiest Fight since Baldomir

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No.

 

I cant understand how anyone would think this is his easiest fight in years. RG is technically sound, accurate, has good power, a rock solid chin and most important of all he is as determined and hungry as any fighter in the sport. He showed so much in the berto fight. Iv rarely seen a fighter put in a more viciously determined performance in my entire time following boxing

 

I don't think so. I predicted the fight to be a one-sided affair and that's exactly what it was. Ortiz was throwing and being aggressive on the ropes yet watch those encounters again, almost all of those punches were blocked. There was one big punch Ortiz landed and it was a left hook as Mayweather moved right on it and that was all. Ortiz was so inexperienced and frustrated that his headbutts couldn't be more amateurish and blatant. At least Baldomir was considered officially the lineal #1 welterweight with a shocking win over Judah who recently destroyed Spinks. That and Baldomir acted more of a professional in the ring despite being outclassed completely than the easily frustrated Ortiz.

 

It's hilarious that some people still bring up Marquez despite what was already proven style-wise in their first fight. Marquez is a counter puncher and yet again he will be forced on the aggressive which means getting pummeled and outclassed for the full 12. Even if Mayweather becomes the aggressor he will have more success handling what Marquez throws back and countering with his own.

 

no i dont think so . mostly due to floyds age. but floyd will still win mostly every single round .

 

Biased against Guerrero, for whatever reason.

Nowhere did I accuse you of anti-Floyd bias in this specific conversation. Guilty conscience?

...and I have no vested interest in either defending nor denigrating PBF's legacy. I'm just looking at it through a dispassionately objective critical lens, and IMO that list is completely firm. I don't really give a **** whether it makes him look one way or another. Fact is, in terms of how much they actually made life a chore between the ropes for Floyd, DLH > Cotto > Judah > Hatton > Mosley > Mitchell > Ortiz > Marquez > Baldomir. I did qualify my guess for where Guerrero will place with a "probably". If he gets shut out and knocked down like Marquez, obviously he'll be down at the lower end. If he shocks everybody and bags 3-4 rounds, he'll have to rate up near #3 or so.

No, two separate issues. You're often critical beyond reason of Floyd (such as in your present dismissal of Guerrero as credible opposition, thus allowing you to give no credit if he is dominated) - this just happens to be an example where you aren't by pumping up Ortiz and that version of Mosley.

I used to love SSM, and was rooting for him to rock Floyd in his boots, but it didn't happen (despite a close shave) and he got completely embarrassed. With the exception of how great he looked dismantling Margarito, all of Shane's recent activity before that indicated he would get embarrassed. Mayweather and Margarito couldn't possibly be any more different. Dismantling the latter in no way suggests you won't get embarrassed by the former. It is what it is.

I don't like Ortiz at all, but it's clear from your posts that you do. You probably wanted him to be the one to pop Floyd's cherry as much as I wanted it to be Shane. It didn't happen, and he got completely embarrassed. Worse than Shane, really, since he never landed that one big shot to seriously hurt Floyd. (mostly just a bunch of tub-thumping flurries pushing Floyd to the ropes, hitting the body obliquely with Floyd's elbows partially blocking and getting 95% of head shots blocked or slipped)

Going life and death with Berto didn't mean Ortiz was going to have a great shot against Mayweather. People got blinded by his big bulging muscles and aggressive demeanor, not realizing those don't mean **** against world class boxing skill and years of experience.

Neither had that ability, realistically.

I hoped Shane would do it, but didn't kid myself. Shane 3-4 years earlier had the ability and would've been in with a great shot. Shane by then, did not.

Ortiz was NEVER and is never going to have the ability to knock Floyd out, not even if he's the dance partner in that 6th Showtime date three years from now when Floyd is on the doorstep of 38.

OK, fine...or let's say "make it competitive on the inside".

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Yeah. No bias against Guerrero whatsoever.

 

Exactly! Which is why Ortiz got frustrated and fouled PBF because he knew he gave it his best shot against the ropes he missed and PBF laughed at him. He knew then he was out of his depth.

 

RG has the right mindset and physical tools to give Floyd problems. Solid chin, Floyd aint knocking him out like he did Ortiz. Nonstop pressure fighter with ko power. He's not going to fight Floyds fight in the center of the ring it wont matter how many times Floyd counter RG wont stop coming forward. Another thing about RG is tho he is not as fast as Floyd, RG has a habit of countering every now and then when his opponents are moving away or moving back. He loves to throw that straight left when they moving away from him thinking its safe. No one is getting ko'd here. This will be a great fight going to the cards and RGs potential rise to stardom. Win or lose if RG gives Floyd a close fight, which no one has given him in yrs, Floyd might have a new dancing partner and might feel obligated to give RG a rematch like he did with Castillo. RG really, really surprised alot of people with the way he handled Berto. Ortiz has nothin on Guerrero. Guerrero literally means "warrior" and lately he's been fighting like one.

 

It doesnt matter, Ortiz beat him first. The Berto Ghost fought was coming off a layoff because of that steroid ****. Ortiz win was better

 

Floyd is 36 years old. Don't expect him to have many "easy" fights from now on

 

I thought Mayweather struggled with lefties? Anyway, Marquez was Mayweather's easiest fight since Baldo. Marquez is a better fighter than Guerrero. Stylistically, it would seem as though Guerrero could cause more problems.

 

This right here. Father Time is undefeated in boxing.

Mayweather's dominant run can come to a shocking halt as he continues to age. It has happened to the best of them throughout history. If Mayweather keeps fighting champions, he'll lose eventually.