Is this one KO the entire basis for Peter's power being so feared?

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  1. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Peter couldn't even get but one off balance knockdown of Toney in two full fights of pounding on the little guy. And Toney is not even what you'd call a natural heavyweight.

    Peter also landed on Wladimir, flush, at least five times throughout their fight, and didn't get but one legitmate knockdown, which was late in the fight. (tenth, I think). And Wlad is supposedly a very weak chinned heavy who is tailor made for a big puncher who can bull his way in and land a big shot. He did land, a few times, but it didn't get the results Peter was after, though.

    :blood

    I think Peter has an incredible chin and a very strong will to win, but he's not the brutal powerpuncher most make him out to be. Granted, some of his ineffectiveness is due to poor form and technique, as he probably does have great power, but he can't deliver it, at least not well enough to be as damaging as most seem to think he is.
     
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  2. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    No, it came from the fact he KO'd 17 of the first 18 guys he faced.

    He was already hailed as a big puncher long before he almost decapitated Williams.
     
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  3. El Bombasto

    El Bombasto Ask yo momma Full Member

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    That's because 17 of the first 18 guys he's faced were bums. This guy couldn't KO Shufford, even McCline KO's Shufford.:patsch
     
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  4. KillerInstinct

    KillerInstinct Member Full Member

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    Tyrone Brunson has 18 first round KO's in a row, so in your opinion, he is the best puncher to ever live..right? :patsch
     
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  5. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    So are you arguing that he is NOT a big puncher????

    You realize that Toney is one of the best defensive fighters of our generation....right? And that NOONE for the most part ever rocked Toney.

    I mean, you realize that right?
     
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  6. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am not saying he is not a big puncher, no.

    I am saying that he is a big puncher, obviously, but not nearly as powerful as most seem to imply that he is. If he had the mythical power that his reputation implies, Toney would have been KOed, good chin or not. Same for Wladimir.

    Didn't happen. Peter is a strong puncher, but not as strong as his reputation says he is. I recall that Duva and some of those clowns in the Peter camp were saying he has the most powerful puncher since Sonny Liston. I know they are merely trying to hype their meal ticket, but still. Peter has yet to earn even one KO of a decent heavyweight.

    He probably won't be dropping Maskaev, either.

    The effectiveness of Peter as a KO puncher is obviously limited by the level of opposition he's in with, as is usually the case, but it seems more apparent in this case. Jeremy Wiliams and Julius Long, sure, he can KO those kind of fighters. LOL
     
    Heavyrighthand, Jul 19, 2007
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  7. Snakefist

    Snakefist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Toney probably has one of the best chins in boxing history, also he takes a lot of steam off of punches because of his little defensive moves he does which counts for a lot. Toney ain't never being stopped, or at least not in a few more years as he gets older.
     
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  8. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    peter's power is overated he couldn'e even ko shufford. didn't eitenn ko shufford?
     
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  9. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    you guy's are just peter lovers
     
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  10. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    and no way does he hit harder then then vlad
     
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  11. Dr Gonzo

    Dr Gonzo Yo! Molesta La Breastas! Full Member

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    He just hits people in the back of the head until they go down with frustration
     
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  12. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Peter is definitely a powerful puncher, although not a good puncher. He didn't win by KO his last fight because Toney has the best chin of all times, but he was able to knock him down.
     
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  13. Dr Gonzo

    Dr Gonzo Yo! Molesta La Breastas! Full Member

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    Agreed, but i think in some form Toney was off balance which had a bit to do with it
     
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  14. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was indeed off balance, but Peter's punch connected Toney's face and he went down, making it legitimate.

    I don't think Peter has power like Tua or Foreman, **** no, he doesn't... but he could be considered a powerful slugger in any heavyweight division of the last 100 years.
     
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  15. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've said this a million times and I''ll say it again. Peter is a huge puncher as long as his opponent stands perfectly still for about 5 minutes while he winds up a slow looping haymaker. As long as he continues to fight top guys, don't expect to see any highlight reel KO's from him.

    Having the kind of power that peter has is like having a 10 inch **** but also having erictile disfuntion
     
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