Is This Really Pac's Winning Strategy?

This sums up your opinions perfectly. His head moves when his body moves? :rofl Yeah, he's not a damn bobble head doll! Pac is one of the hardest fighters to hit, and has some of the best head movement in the sport.

 

Don't agree with everything but you made solid points :deal

 

I'm really not sure what you guys were watching. Odlh was not outboxing Floyd at all. His jabs were getting picked off, that notion that his jab landed at will is a complete myth, watch closely, they either get rolled, floyd steps back, parries, picked off, or changes floyd changed head slots and faded away from it, very few jabs actually landed, and in fact floyd landed about double the jabs oscar did. The first few rounds, the only reason odlh won any of the rounds was because of those late flurries, where none of his punches were landing. In fact, oscar almost got knocked down about 3x in that fight, 2x while he was attacking floyd on the ropes and got nailed with counter rights in between his offense, even though guys say floyd doesn't attack while on the ropes and his opponent is attacking, a third time around round 9 or 10 when floyd landed a left hook that folded oscar in half. I have no clue how anyone scored this fight close. Oscar won about 3 rounds at best, his aggression was hilariously overrated and ineffective, and after the first 5/6 he got dominated when floyd stepped up his activity rate when he changed gears. At no point in this fight did Oscar outbox floyd.

 

Floyd will taste his first L. 47-1.

 

LOL,

All busted up against Morales

All busted up against Cotto

All busted up against Clottey

Put into a coma by a ancient Mexican brawler with a chin

Stopping every right hand with his face is awesome head movement

Yeah, he is really hard to hit.......

 

Going to laugh when he posts YouTube link to the Oscar fight. That's about as close as it comes.

 

First of all, Emmanuel steward, who was loving all over Floyd that night, was even forced to admit that Floyd was going to lose if he didn't pick it up. Floyd's own father said its about who touches who more and went with oscar when he was asked who won. Oscar wasn't always landing on Floyds face, but he did quite a bit of body work and was jabbing to floyd's chest and shoulders, which will win you a round when your opponent is barely firing back. And Oscar did give Floyd a shiner below his eye, and yes Oscar was connecting on floyd every round. Oscar was up 4-3 after 7 rounds, so yes oscar was OUTBOXING floyd. It wasn't until oscar started tiring and floyd was able to successfully throw a right hand counter punch over oscar's left jab, that is why oscar stopped jabbing, as he got more tired, Floyd was able to land this counter.

And oscar was almost knocked down THREE times? WTF!!! LOLOL Floyd connected while oscar had him on the ropes with a clean shot to oscars jaw, but oscar didn't even stop throwing so how could that have almost knocked him down? he obviously wasn't even hurt! When you actually stun and opponent, you break their rhythm and usually they back up and stop firing, oscar did none of those. Oscar won atleast 4 rounds in that fight if not 5.

And the thing about the jab, whether it lands or not, it makes your opponent reset, it throws off rhythm and timing, oscar's jab was helping him to win the fight the first 7-8 rounds because it was keeping Floyd from really setting up. Had oscar sustained his energy and work rate, he would won that fight, even that much slower, no power version of oscar.

Check 5:40 out, Oscar gets in a jab, left hook and right hand. Floyd gets very serious and feels he has to answer back and does. Floyd actually looked angry, credit to him for coming forward after oscar tagged him a few times but prime oscar would have been all over when floyd came forward. This washed up version, throws a 5 punch combo and gets tired, and really his power is maybe 70% of what it was and speed at maybe 60%. But my point, oscar was landing all night, especially the first 7 rounds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOc9HstV_CY

 

1. Manny was hating on Floyd all night, saying he's not a great fighter, that Oscar had always been the more admirable of a fighter, and giving Oscar rounds just because he shoeshine for 30 seconds in a round where he did almost nothing even when he himself would admittedly say the shots were ineffective and Floyd was landing the more obvious more impactful cleaner shots.
2. Just because a jab is thrown doesn't make it effective especially if it's not landing, the fact of the matter is he used more willpower than anything to get floyd to the ropes and used physicality and activity not a jab. There were only a few instances where the jab was effective and it showed.
3. Yes he did almost knock Oscar down about 3 times twice in the same sequence. You noted Oscar kept throwing, he did indeed, but only after he pulled his head back from being turned and knees dipping, I didn't say he was hurt, you don't have to be hurt to get dropped, I only inquired that he almost went down.
4. You have no idea what you're talking about when you say an ineffective jab throws off rhythm. What's the point of throwing anything thats ineffective, thats a negative by nature, so its contradictory. If his jab wasn't landing (which it wasn't) he would stop throwing (which he did) so you're statement that his jab was throwing floyd off is negated by the activity which was perpetrated by Delahoya himself. Something that isn't working isn't worth using, which was exemplified by his lack of use of the jab.
5. As I stated before, Oscar wasn't tired by the time Floyd began to dominate, he just stepped up a gear. The first few rounds he allowed Oscar by design to throw and throw and miss and miss, then around 5 he stepped activity up and started digging with shots. That's the same as saying Floyd only beat Judah because he got tired, but not stating the fact that he got tired because he was getting beat up, forced to work, missing shots, and being mentally broken down. In no way was Delahoya outboxing Floyd, none. Up til now I haven't even mentioned punch stats, but those reflect a dominating performance as well. How can a guy you outboxed land so many more punches (power & jab equally) than you? Unless it happened in specific rounds in landslides or a ton of illegal or nonlanding punches were counted (castillo 1 and Maidana 1), there's no way you get beat on punch stats but outbox someone overall, this was a fight where round after round was the same story of getting thrown at more but not having much land on you, and landing more than your opponent in that same round. That's just called ineffective aggression, not outboxing.

 

Dang, Oscar looks exhausted. Exhausted. Like it looks as if he's about to pass out, lol. Floyd looks as if he just stepped into the ring!

 

You'll see manny go to the body a lot when Floyd is on the ropes. His left straight and left hook to the body will be a big focus I bet. Pac hurt margarito bad with a left to the body if I remember correctly.

 

Ya and that was only like mid way through the fight. You could see as the rounds went on oscar getting more and more sluggish, Floyd the same from round 1 to 12 basically. I think this fight was after oscar was becoming an addict though also, not just washed up, but he had other problems underlying.

 

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This is the right strategy.The TS knows nothing about boxing.

It is important for Pac to use his legs after he is through with his combinations.Pac has the stamina to fight this kind of fight

 

Don't take it at all actually. This is the hype phase where lies, deceit, humor and general trash talk with a little bit of the truth mixed and hidden right in will be all the over the place. For a fight of this magnitude too, expect anything they do to be overly publicized especially with no 24/7 or even a simple Face-Off to keep things in one place.

 

Lol do your homework boy
Pac never retreats to the ropes.Floyd ain't even a pressure fighter or big puncher.

 

Well gee, oscar outlanded trinidad by 100 punches and Mosley and still lost LOL
Sure floyd was landing cleaner shots but they weren't damaging blows. oscar had not a single scratch on his face. Stevie forbes did more damage to oscar than Floyd did. One punch at time and backing away isn't going to win you a fight when you're opponent is throwing twice as much, even though many aren't landing, he still kept busier and was landing sometimes with harder punches, and landing more than 1 shot at a time as shown in the video. And the fact remains, oscar was over the hill and still managed to win 4-5 rounds off prime Floyd. I saw that fight live and Oscar was ahead going into the 8th round and it was him tiring down the stretch that got Floyd more courageous. And look at the last 10 seconds of the fight, FINALLY floyd stands and trades with oscar, obviously knowing oscar had nothing left but oscar still got the better of it! LOL