Is this the worst P4P list????

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  1. TAM83

    TAM83 Active Member Full Member

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    Boxrecs P4P list

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    Bernard Hopkinslight heavyweight
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    Floyd Mayweather Jrlight middleweight
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    Israel Vazquezsuper bantamweight
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    Chris Johnfeatherweight
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    Ricky Hattonlight welterweight
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    Jermain Taylormiddleweight
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    Shane Mosleywelterweight
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    Joe Calzaghesuper middleweight
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    Cristian Mijaressuper flyweight
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    Miguel Angel Cottowelterweight
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    Manny Pacquiaosuper featherweight
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    Juan Manuel Marquezsuper featherweight
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    Hozumi Hasegawabantamweight
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    Mikkel Kesslersuper middleweight
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    Alexander Munozsuper flyweight
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    Cory Spinksmiddleweight
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    Rafael Marquezsuper bantamweight
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    Wladimir Klitschkoheavyweight
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    Juan Diazlightweight
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    Celestino Caballerosuper bantamweight
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    Takefumi Sakataflyweight
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    Clinton Woodslight heavyweight
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    Oscar De La Hoyalight middleweight
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    Paul Williamswelterweight
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    Glen Johnsonlight heavyweight


    What do you make of it?
     
  2. Danny Ocean

    Danny Ocean My nAmE IS MoNeY Full Member

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    its computer generated
     
  3. TAM83

    TAM83 Active Member Full Member

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    It's ****ing awful, Pac number 11:scaredas:
     
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  5. TAM83

    TAM83 Active Member Full Member

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    What with Chris John at number 4?
     
  6. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    It's a computer list and a joke. Every time they **** with it, it gets worse.
     
  7. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Computer don't lie.
     
  8. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What do you expect after draw with Marquez and wins over shot Morales?
     
  9. iceman

    iceman Tis my Island Full Member

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    Boxrec rankings are terrible.Look at the rankings for each weight class - eg Corey Spinks #2 middleweight - laughable
     
  10. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    In a sport as chaotic and random as boxing, there's no possible way for an empirical system to work. You have to view this stuff subjectively.
     
  11. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Boxrec see it as a objective boxing records.
    The boxing journalists in the most cases are objective and gives proper due.
    Boxing fans in most cases favour their favorite boxers regardless of the outcome.

    its good to have somethings rationale as boxing records to bias the fans nuthuggery.
     
  12. jonesjrp4p1

    jonesjrp4p1 16 yr old prodigy Full Member

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  13. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    I'm not sure I understand. How could anyone defend these rankings? They make no sense at all.

    And I'm sure Boxrec sees it as objective, but you can't make boxing be objective in the current environment. No way.
     
  14. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    Right, and that can't work. Their rankings are their business, I appreciate all the work they do, but they'd be better off just having their editors vote or something.
     
  15. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Off course they are objetive.

    Hopkins was reighning champion for many years and lost to undefeated prospect.
    Now he have two wins over the recognized "man" at LHW and
    top5 p4p fighter. Nobody have better record than him recently.

    PBF is unbeaten but he didnt fought any p4p fighter in many years.
    His win over Baldomir is good from the record point of view because
    he beat liner champion. His win over Oscar is just a money fight and
    these are slightly lower than recent wins of Hopkins.

    Hatton and John are unbeaten and "chmpions" in their weight classes
    with good recent wins. But you shouldn't make case they are below
    Hopkins and Maywetaher.

    I don't see Vasquez as high.

    Calzaghe and Taylor formally still unbeaten with not best record in
    terms of beating best competition recently.

    Mijares beat top guys recently ans is unbeaten in many years.

    The only case which is really logically not real is PAC at 11.

    I think this list would be DECENT if you just exchange PAC with Vasquez.