Is Timothy Ray Bradley Jr. An ATG...???

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Is Timmeh an ATG...???

  1. Yes.

  2. No.

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  1. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    His speed did not increase. Just look at his lightweight fights from a few years prior.
    And the whole "dangerous" argument seems odd. Was Marquez better at 40 than he was at 30? Or is it that he just punched harder?
     
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  2. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    HOF yes, ATG no.
     
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  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Good fighter but no.
     
  4. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Did I say Marquez was prime in the Bradley fight? No. I said he was the most dangerous version of Marquez. He was wiser, even more seasoned/experienced, and might have lost a step in speed and stamina (though not by much), but his timing got even better and he increased his punching power.
     
  5. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    His timing was better in the first Pac fight. Do you remember how ****ing fast Pac was in 2004? The quickest feet and combos in boxing back then. Marquez was knocked down 3 times early and still had the stamina and conditioning to fight back.
     
  6. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    hes has a case for elite, but anything above is too far. Bear in mind elite is above world class, that should be good enough for a guy who won titles but struggled to keep them for long.
     
  7. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    cmon he didnt beat Pac...and if he did it would mean more of a "fame"/HoF case as being famous for beating an ATG,

    Marquez is different - beating a 40something ATG doesnt make you an ATG, it makes you a serious angler for cherrypicks. Still a good win though, just nowhere near great.
     
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  8. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He won a highly questionable decision over a spent, Manny Pacquaio, and lost both subsequent rematches. JMM was 40 when he fought Bradley, and Marquez only fought one more time for the remainder of his career.

    These wins are even less meaningful than De La Hoya's wins over an aging ATG Chavez. (For the record, Bradley is nowhere near the fighter that Pacquiao, Marquez, Chavez, or De La Hoya is)
     
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  9. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. He had an excellent career, but not ATG worthy. Making Bradley an ATG would put him in the same class as Sugar Ray Leonard and Floyd Mayweather, which he clearly wasn't.
     
  10. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't even think he is hall of fame. Something is lacking in him which makes him in the hall of fame even.
     
  11. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    hall of infame perhaps, but he fair n square accepted manny's rematch so maybe no.
     
  12. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    I think he'll be a HOF fighter, and he was a great champion, wouldn't consider him an ATG though.
     
  13. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Upon second thought, he may be just shy of the HOF. Gives me something to think about.
     
  14. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    Did not find Bradley vs Marquez to be close at all, I thought Bradley won it comfortably. And I am one of the few that saw Bradley beating Pac in the first fight. Manny was given too much credit by everyone for ineffective flurries, a lot of which never landed.

    *edit* Also I voted yes, but I thought in this instance ATG was referring to HOF. To clarify, Bradley was great but not a ATG. He should definitely be in the HOF I'd even say ahead of Cotto. Bradley was a true warrior and one of my favorites of his era.
     
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  15. anthoto1

    anthoto1 Active Member Full Member

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