Is Tyson clearly hurt?

The shot lands on the temple area, you can clearly see Tyson's head move from the impact. Do you still deny that the punch stunned him?

 

I've known all along from watching it live that the shot landed and that it stunned Tyson for a couple of seconds.

I admire your resolve but you're way off here pal, don't sweat it.

 

Of course he was hurt. The punch landed on his chin, his knees sagged and he backed away to the ropes. Come on are you joking?

 

Watching this fight again, I can't believe how "shot" Tyson was.
He looked like really good boxers I've seen in person. His style and rhythm are things I've seen other people do. It's really good, but not elite special. And his stamina and pace were really not there.

Prime Tyson was an elite great, unpredictable, a wind up toy with a sickening pace. A totally dynamic machine that looked to have some kind of motor.
Prime Tyson would've taken out Holyfield in 2 rounds I believe. Perhaps 1.

 

As for the punch in question:

It hits the side of his head, ricochets off his shoulder, and slides through his chin, stinging, maybe even staggering him.

 

https://streamable.com/drnlm

Clear as day.
You can also right click the streamable, and choose 1/4th speed. It landed.

All good, nobody is 100% all the time, happens.
You did change the game with your subtitled gif though. The overlaying text killed me. Things will never be the same...

 

This is what I call on "oh ****" punch. You might not be actually hurt as in stunned, wobbly legs or even outward signs of injury. But it's a punch that forces a fighter to mind his P's and Q's. He may not have been hurt but his change in behavior is clear. Floyd has this type of power at welterweight, and in short shots Holyfield had this type of power at heavy.

There is a difference between when a fighter is truly hurt and a fighter getting caught and toning down the aggression a bit.

 

This is a clip Cobra posted that showed Tyson immediately after the exchange we are talking about.

https://streamable.com/btjaa

Tyson definitely seems to be trying to mask being buzzed in my eyes, he looked surprised by the punch and this legs for a brief moment look less mobile then he snaps out of it quickly and makes his way to the ropes. Its very brief but whether he was hurt bad or not, he was effected, otherwise why didn't he immediately retaliate after this exchange? he was in position to land but instead he kind of backed of?

this poll stems from another debate which discusses Tyson's reaction to punishment in 96 versus 91. I argued that Tyson was a lot more robust in 91 and in this particular exchange he was likely to have retaliated immediately, as he did against Ruddock when he was hit by arguably harder shots early in the fight.

In 96 Tyson was already befuddled by a short right hand. Cobra's and others argument is Tyson was just as robust in 96 as he was in 91. I personally think Mike was a bit shocked by Holy's offence as he wasn't used to getting hit like that, that exchange in round two showed his surprise.

Thanks for setting up the poll, interesting comments

 

At least we agree on something, I'm surprised I'm the only one that noticed this until I kept emphasising the point.

Tyson appears out of it for a second or two, the way he spins around slowly looks very strange. He then does a little jig, this reminds me of the kind of involuntary action Frazier did when he dusted off his shorts.

It was a shot that landed on the temple, Tyson wouldn't have took many temple shots against Ruddock if any at all, the impact of a punch varies drastically depending on where it connects, it would have scrambled his senses.

He wasn't completely gone but he was buzzed, Bobby Czyz noticed this and so did Holyfield.

I've just found this as well from the Sky commentary of their first fight, even Reg Gutteridge picked up on it. It's around 7:20 of the clip.

I think that's game, set and match......

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(Not that I really give a ****, but anyway ...)
You're about the only one who sees the punch "conclusively not land".
I can't tell but I think the punch might have partially connected with the head or behind-the-ear and neck area.

Besides, who are you to say a Holyfield punch to the shoulder cannot hurt ?
That's the real question.