Is Tyson Fury the Best British Heavyweight of All Time?

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Who is the best UK-born heavyweight of all time?

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  1. Tyson Fury

    20.0%
  2. Lennox Lewis

    77.3%
  3. David Haye

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Henry Cooper

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Anthony Joshua

    0.5%
  6. Bob Fitzsimmons

    0.5%
  7. Tommy Farr

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Frank Bruno

    0.5%
  9. Joe Joyce

    1.1%
  10. Don Cockell

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Think I'll take Lennox....not even close
     
  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Would Fury get KO'd by McCall and Rahman?

    Knocked out by Tony Bellew x 2 and outclassed by Wlad?

    Lose 14 times to all the guys who beat Henry Cooper, including getting stopped x 8?

    Get knocked senseless and stopped by walking blob Fat Andy?

    Lose three times to Mick Dooley and get stopped seven times like Bob Fitzsimmons?

    Lose 34 fights and draw 19 like Tommy Farr?

    Get stopped x 5 like Bruno was?

    Lose to the scrubs Cockell who was bested 14 times and stopped 9 times?

    The answer is a resounding no

    We know Fury cannot be defeated by power

    He's fought three of the absolute hardest punchers in the history of the sport in Wlad, The Bronze Dosser, and David Price

    Whyte has one of the best left hooks in the division's history too

    But to be fair

    And I didn't omit this by accident

    Would Fury get outclassed by Usyk like AJ was?

    Likely not

    But would he beat The Usyk God?

    Hmm.. even GOATS have boogeymen and when your boogeyman just so happens to be the joint GOAT
     
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  3. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

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    No, Lewis beats him here especially if Fury does walk away now.
     
  4. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I love Tyson Fury.

    But if I'm being honest, Lennox is still ahead. But Fury is a very close second.

    It's not really Fury's fault in fairness, Lewis simpler fought in a MUCH stronger era.

    Regardless of which way round you have them though, Lewis and Fury are the top 2 by a mile and no one else is even remotely close.
     
  5. Boxing Gloves

    Boxing Gloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Only between Lewis and Fury. Both men beat every person they ever fought. At the minute you have to give it to Lewis. IF Tyson fights on and beats Usyk and Joshua then I'd put him above or atleast level with Lewis. Lewis simply had more defences and more depth and quality on his record and he was undisputed.
     
  6. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What about Joshua? Let’s speculate that he some how wins the Usyk rematch and then fights Fury and wins. Suddenly his resume is

    Wlad
    Fury
    Usyk
    Povetkin
    Pulev
    Whyte
    Parker

    not bad at all
     
  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury was young then, pre-prime. Some say Lewis should have another loss on his record to Ray Mercer. The second fight with the much smaller Holyfield could have been scored for Evander.

    Nearly everyone Lewis defeated had been stopped before. Morrison was sick, Mike Tyson was faded, Golota was glass-chinned.[/QUOTE]

    The Mercer fight was a close decision, which most agree Lewis probably edged. The Fury vs McDermott 1 fight wasn't close. And it's considered a robbery, they even changed the rules of the Referee judging British title fights, because it was such an awful decision. Yes I agree Fury was still learning, but still a robbery is a robbery and Fury should have 1 loss on his record.

    And as for Holyfield vs Lewis 2 fight, I don't see how anyone could score that for Holyfield. I watched it recently and it was a clear 7-5 for Lewis, and that was me being generous to Holyfield. He did virtually nothing between rounds 8-11. But yes it was a more competitive fight, but it's still a fight most would agree Lewis deservedly won, again it wasn't robbery like Holyfield vs Lewis 1 or Fury vs McDermott 1.

    Well I wouldn't say Golota was glassed chin, he can be caught cold early yes. But I certainly wouldn't call him glassed chin. Golota was fresh off giving Riddick Bowe two horrific beatings, and was considered a very dangerous fight for Lewis.

    Morrison had just been in a terrific war vs Razor Ruddock, certainly didn't look ill in that fight which was before Lewis fight.

    I already pointed out Tyson was old.

    And you say Morrison had been stopped before, well so had Dillian Whyte twice before by Joshua and an old Povetkin, so why is that any different ?

    Lewis has a more meaty resume, more solid wins and more well rounded career. But as I said if Fury beats Usyk then the debate becomes alot harder.
     
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  8. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The thing is though you can only judge a man by what he’s done not what he’s capable of in theory. Lewis maximized his potential and that has to be respected. But if Fury can continue on and dominate the sport for a couple more years then he has a very good case.
     
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  9. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    I think a lot of that would depend on the quality of Fury's opposition in those four years.
     
  10. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Unlucky for fury he's in a weak era... simultaneously...he's lucky he's in a weak era.
     
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  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Free Smurk

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    Him and Lewis are the best
     
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  12. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    McCall and Rahman were maybe slightly better than Whyte but not much. Cannot imagine Fury losing them.
     
  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :shakehead: Fury let's himself down here.

    Coming off back-to-back biblical shellackings and KO losses to a man this dosser/walking excuse machine/terrible loser and his Dosser Nation defamed with malicious accusations and slanderous lies

    Fury even reached out to that ****house after the fight inviting him and his family to spend time with him and his family and he blanked him

    After all the lies and slanderous and utterly baseless malicious accusations he and his fanbase leveled at him?

    And that was after he snubbed in the ring post-fight when Fury went over to congratulate him

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  14. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    McCall was smaller and less powerful than Whyte. His chin was obviously superior but he did become a journeyman after the Lewis MH breakdown and never faced another champion. Rahman had a big punch but not a great boxer or chin. I don't see either putting any dent in Fury, or 2002 Mike or 99 Holyfield. As for tko6, was a cut stoppage while behind on all three cards. Not a lot can be deduced from it unless you are a Lewis nuthugger. Dear old Bruno gave Lewis a tough few rounds. Would Bruno stop or even beat Whyte? Not sure on that. Would be a career best win for Bruno outwith the McCall decision
     
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  15. Devon

    Devon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lennox Lewis is ahead in terms of who he beat, but I wouldn’t know who to pick if they fought prime for prime